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William Lewis 1867
« on: Thursday 04 February 16 13:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I am trying ( and failing) to find the father and mother of William Lewis born 1867 ish Portsmouth, he was married to Margaret née Joyce and lived in Toxteth park.
His father may be Henry Lewis, mariner, however the censuses are drawing a blank. Any help would be gratefully received.

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Re: William Lewis 1867
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 04 February 16 13:32 GMT (UK) »
I guess you haven't found his birth registration? 

His marriage certificate should confirm the name/occupation of his father.
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Re: William Lewis 1867
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 04 February 16 13:33 GMT (UK) »
Name:    William Lewis
Registration Year:    1867
Registration Quarter:    Apr-May-Jun
Registration district:    Portsea Island  hampshire    could this be his birth??

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Re: William Lewis 1867
« Reply #3 on: Friday 05 February 16 01:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi, thanks for the reply, yes I think that the Portsea birth is William, marriage states father Henry Lewis father, Mariner. But no info on his wife or any census with Henry (head) and a child named William of the right age ! Guessing he may have been at sea at time of censuses ? So a bit lost on mothers name.


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Re: William Lewis 1867
« Reply #4 on: Friday 05 February 16 01:22 GMT (UK) »
I have found a William Lewis, orphan in Portsea in the 1881 census, aged 16 ? and a Henry Lewis in the poor house, could this be them ? Did they get orphan ages wrong, thinking mother may be deceased ?

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Re: William Lewis 1867
« Reply #5 on: Friday 05 February 16 02:32 GMT (UK) »
Name:    William Lewis
Registration Year:    1867
Registration Quarter:    Apr-May-Jun
Registration district:    Portsea Island  hampshire    could this be his birth??

There is also a death in the following quarter, William Lewis aged 0.

In 1871 there is a William Albert Lewis aged 5 living with father Henry aged 45, pensioner. Mother was Jane aged 46. Siblings Eliza Jane 15, Louisa Fanny 15 & Sarah Ann 10.

There is a death in Portsea in 1880 of a Jane Lewis aged 56, and a very long & sad newspaper report about the inquest into her death, headed "Alleged Starvation at Portsea" (Hampshire Telegraph 15 May 1880).  Her husband was Henry Lewis, a naval pensioner receiving £2/month and "a great drunkard".

In brief she was admitted to the workhouse from her home at Nunn's Court, Southampton Road at her own request in a 'near death' state of emaciation.  She also had pain in her side from where (she said) her husband had ill used her. She died the following day.

A neighbour said the family had lived there about three years and consisted of the husband, wife, and a son of about 14.  A few days earlier Jane had told the neighbour that her husband had hit her on her right side and on her head, and since early April she had been short of food.  It seems Henry had spent it all on drink & so the neighbours were helping her & her son with food. The daughters were stated to not be living in Portsmouth, although one had visited on Saturday.

Henry did not bother to attend the inquest, and although it was found that Jane died of consumption, the jury unanimously added a rider that they considered Henry had been guilty of "unmanly and brutal conduct" towards her.

From this I'd say the 1881 "orphan" is probably your William, and that this is his birth:

William A Lewis, Jan-Mar 1866, Portsea, Vol 2b page 424

The Naval pensioner in the workhouse is almost certainly his father and I see is listed as a pauper.  Doesn't sound a nice chap, does he?
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Re: William Lewis 1867
« Reply #6 on: Friday 05 February 16 04:35 GMT (UK) »
Wow that's great information thank you, even if the news is bad he sounds like a horrid drunk but I have found them and explains why I had trouble locating them.