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Shannon family holiday in Delgany/Greystones, County Wicklow, 1930
« on: Sunday 07 February 16 16:30 GMT (UK) »
This is my first RootsChat posting.
In 1929 & 1930, my father, Des Shannon (born Liverpool 1913), with his parents & younger brother went on holiday in Ireland. Though my father kept a small diary, the holiday entries are tantalisingly brief. He mentions Delgany & Greystones; visiting Bray, Glendalough, Kilcool, Kilpedder, Kilqude & the Sugar Loaf; & going further afield to Dublin, Avoca & Gorey. So, it's probably a good bet that they were staying somewhere in the Delgany/Greystones area. But why there? Was there a family link to this part of Wicklow?
I have a few photos taken during these holidays that, because of the number of priests in every shot, are known as the ‘Craggy Island’ photos. See attached photo. This was taken outside an unknown hotel (‘HOTEL’ can just be seen in the glass over the door). My father is on the left. To the left of the two priests is my grandfather, Alexander Shannon. His father, John Shannon, left Dublin with his young family for Liverpool in the early 1880s. It's not known who the other family is, but they may be relations, as there is a Shannon myth that the family originally came from Wicklow. However, there may be a clue in the (school?) uniforms the other boys are wearing - identical short trousers and jackets with a distinctive shield badge on the breast pocket. Does anyone recognise this badge and therefore the school? This may be the clue to unlock the mystery.


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Re: Shannon family holiday in Delgany/Greystones, County Wicklow, 1930
« Reply #1 on: Friday 12 February 16 16:43 GMT (UK) »
www.nationalarchives.ie for 1901 & 1911 Censuses in Ireland.  Also Griffith Valuation records mid 1850's on same site.  If you can establish a connection to Wicklow (several Shannon entries on Censuses) you can also check out for Baptisms & Marriages (Parish records) www.registers.nli.ie
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Re: Shannon family holiday in Delgany/Greystones, County Wicklow, 1930
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 18 February 16 09:27 GMT (UK) »
John Shannon who left Dublin 1880s do you know his wife's name.

The Priest's in the photo due to shape of collar dont appear to be catholic.

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Re: Shannon family holiday in Delgany/Greystones, County Wicklow, 1930
« Reply #3 on: Friday 19 February 16 09:22 GMT (UK) »
John Shannon who left Dublin 1880s do you know his wife's name.
The Priest's in the photo due to shape of collar don't appear to be catholic.
Many thanks for your reply. John Shannon (1853-1931) & his wife Alice (nee Browne, 1857-1905) left Dublin for Liverpool c.1882-3.The Shannon family was/is Catholic, so I'd be surprised if the clerics in the photo with my grandfather & father were Church of Ireland.


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Re: Shannon family holiday in Delgany/Greystones, County Wicklow, 1930
« Reply #4 on: Friday 19 February 16 09:25 GMT (UK) »
www.nationalarchives.ie for 1901 & 1911 Censuses in Ireland.  Also Griffith Valuation records mid 1850's on same site.  If you can establish a connection to Wicklow (several Shannon entries on Censuses) you can also check out for Baptisms & Marriages (Parish records) www.registers.nli.ie
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Many thanks for your reply. Sadly, I just don't know where my family lived before moving to Dublin & then to Liverpool. Wicklow is really only a guess. But I'll persevere.

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Re: Shannon family holiday in Delgany/Greystones, County Wicklow, 1930
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 20 February 16 15:38 GMT (UK) »
John Shannon married Alice Brown of Dorset St in 1874
looks like Johns mother dead and father at Thomas St
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=st.michans_mf_1856-1888_ma_0490

Alice's parents are Robert and Elizabeth
Who could be this couple who are C O I or mixed marriage?
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01h3v/
they have got their children baptised as Catholic's

though i cant find a birth for Alice

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Re: Shannon family holiday in Delgany/Greystones, County Wicklow, 1930
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Re: Shannon family holiday in Delgany/Greystones, County Wicklow, 1930
« Reply #8 on: Monday 22 February 16 13:34 GMT (UK) »
John and Alice also had a daughter Elizabeth born 22nd June 1877
197 here  http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=st.michans_mf_1865-1888_ba_0385
she probably died 1878
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FTMB-7NP though her birth does not seem to be registered
and may be buried Glasnevin
http://www.glasnevintrust.ie/genealogy/results/

note her sponsor Robert Newport who is probably this man or his father by same name
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/4159410381302
His father Robert married Anna Fitzgerald in 1858 sister of Robert Brown's wife Elizabeth
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/0e9b730054776
note this  marriage John Gilligan to Alice Newport 1884
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/e4a5030056772
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Rotunda/Lower_Dominick_Street/1282510/
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rotunda/Dominick_Street__Lower/61341/
on Elizabeth's marriage to Robert Brown she is described as a barrister
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/e129990554395
however on viewing the cert she is a varnisher or french polisher and her father James is a Cabinet Maker
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=d-277-3-6-105