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Searching for great grandad Pickthall
« on: Tuesday 09 February 16 20:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi.  I'm new to this, so please bear with me.  I am looking for my great grandfather, James Wilson Pickthall, born about 1851, in Lancashire.  His wife was Hannah Jackson and their son Ralph Henry (born 1890) was my grand father.  It seems there are no records of James prior to his marriage.  His father may have been named Joseph.  Please, any information will be appreciated.  Thank you

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Re: Searching for great grandad Pickthall
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 09 February 16 20:11 GMT (UK) »
not this chap?

baptism


First name(s)   James Wilson
Last name   Pickthall
Gender   Male
Birth year   -
Birth place   -
Baptism year   1849
Baptism date   14 Apr 1849
Residence   Dalton In Furness, Lancashire, England
Place   Dalton-In-Furness
County   Lancashire
Country   England
Father's first name(s)   John
Father's last name   Pickthall
Mother's first name(s)   Bridget
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: Searching for great grandad Pickthall
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 09 February 16 20:16 GMT (UK) »
that particular James W Pickthall is in Hampshire in the 1861 census....which is also where your chap married?
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: Searching for great grandad Pickthall
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 09 February 16 20:21 GMT (UK) »
Baptism: 14 Apr 1849 St Mary, Dalton in Furness, Lancashire, England
Jas. Wilson Pickthall - Son of John Pickthall & Bridget
    Abode: Lindale
    Occupation: Joiner
    Baptised by: H.N. Walton

Baptism: 15 Feb 1851 St Mary, Dalton in Furness, Lancashire, England
Wm. Pickthall - Son of John Pickthall & Bridget
    Abode: Lindale
    Occupation: Joiner
    Baptised by: J.M. Morgan, Vicar

Baptism: 25 Dec 1852 St Mary, Dalton in Furness, Lancashire, England
Agnes Jane Pickthall - Daughter of John Pickthall & Bridget
    Abode: Lindale
    Occupation: Joiner
    Baptised by: H.N. Walton

Baptism: 28 Jan 1855 St Mary, Dalton in Furness, Lancashire, England
Esther Ann Pickthall - Daughter of John Pickthall & Bridget
    Abode: Lindale
    Occupation: Joiner
    Baptised by: H. N. Walton

Baptism: 24 May 1857 St Mary, Dalton in Furness, Lancashire, England
Mary Pickthall - Daughter of John Pickthall & Bridget
    Abode: Orgrave Cottage
    Occupation: Joiner
    Notes: [earlier heading indicates baptism at Ireleth Chapel]
    Baptised by: H: N: Walton

MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: Searching for great grandad Pickthall
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 09 February 16 20:24 GMT (UK) »
although by 1871 the family are back in Newbarns, Dalton, Ulverston, Lancashire, England
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: Searching for great grandad Pickthall
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 09 February 16 20:25 GMT (UK) »
Large family as well in 1861!  All born Dalton-in-Furness

RG 9; Piece: 638; Folio: 58; Page: 49
Portsmouth, Portsea Island

John Pickthall            40    Carpenter                 
Bridget Pickthall           39
Elizabeth E Pickthall    14
James W Pickthall    12
William Pickthall           10
Agnes J Pickthall    8
Esther A Pickthall    6
Mary Pickthall            3
Margaret Pickthall    2/12
James Pickthall           35       brother       Sawyer
James W Denny         47     m in law?      Dock labourer
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Re: Searching for great grandad Pickthall
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 09 February 16 20:32 GMT (UK) »
James Wilson Pickthall and Mary Philippa were married for 13 years in 1911.

Marriage of James Wilson Pickthall to Mary Philippa Kenworthy, showing James father as John Pickthall:  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NNZZ-837

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Re: Searching for great grandad Pickthall
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 09 February 16 20:41 GMT (UK) »
did he marry 3 times?


First name(s)   James Wilson
Last name   Pickthall
Name note   -
Marriage year   1876
Marriage date   26 Sep 1876
Marriage place   Millom
Father's first name(s)   Joseph W.
Father's last name   Pickthall
Spouse's first name(s)   Elizabeth
Spouse's last name   Jackson
Spouse's age   0
Spouse's father's first name(s)   Joseph
Spouse's father's last name   Jackson
Residence   Millom, Cumberland, England
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: Searching for great grandad Pickthall
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 09 February 16 20:44 GMT (UK) »

First name(s)   JAMES WILSON
Last name   PICKTHALL
Marriage quarter   3
Marriage year   1885
Registration month   -
JAMES WILSON PICKTHALL married one of these people
MARY JANE HOLLOWAY, HANNAH JACKSON
District   SOUTH STONEHAM
District number   -
County   Hampshire
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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