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1921 and 1939 census
« on: Tuesday 16 February 16 09:39 GMT (UK) »
 Is it possible to get access to the 1921 census I have seen somewhere that the 1939 one can be viewed but not sure where I have seen that. These two census I hope would answer a lot of questions for me Thank you for your help

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Re: 1921 and 1939 census
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 16 February 16 09:43 GMT (UK) »
As far as I am aware there is no access to the UK1921 and 1931 in UK (or anywhere) as our censuses are not available for 70-100 years from the time they are taken.

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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 16 February 16 09:50 GMT (UK) »
Have just rad that the 1921 census is closed until January 2022. The ruling by the Information Commissioner that resulted in the 1911 census being opened early does not apply to the 1921 census because, unlike the 1911 census, the 1921 census was conducted under the 1920 Census Act, which is still in force and which contains a statutory prohibition on disclosure.

In theory the 1931 census for England & Wales would have been available for public access in 2032 or perhaps earlier if rules were to be changed. However that is not to be.
On the night of Saturday 19 December 1942, there was a fire at a store in Hayes, Middlesex. The store, the responsibility of the Office of Works, contained a large amount of furniture but in addition it contained the census records for England & Wales for 1931, that is the whole of the schedules, enumeration books and plans. They were all completely destroyed.


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Re: 1921 and 1939 census
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 16 February 16 09:55 GMT (UK) »
  Thank you Sandra for that information I have seen somewhere about a census taken at the beginning of the war 1939 and that it was available on line, But I so easily could have dreamt it as I am at the stage where I go to bed thinking about this stuff who is who and who lived where LOL. I will search today for the 1939 census and see if it is correct


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Re: 1921 and 1939 census
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 16 February 16 09:58 GMT (UK) »
In theory the 1931 census for England & Wales would have been available for public access in 2032 or perhaps earlier if rules were to be changed. However that is not to be.
On the night of Saturday 19 December 1942, there was a fire at a store in Hayes, Middlesex. The store, the responsibility of the Office of Works, contained a large amount of furniture but in addition it contained the census records for England & Wales for 1931, that is the whole of the schedules, enumeration books and plans. They were all completely destroyed.

Hence the interest in the 1939 National Register.  As there was no census in 1941 due to the war, the National Register is the nearest thing to a census that we have until 1951 (which we - or rather, some of us -  can view in 2051)

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I have seen somewhere about a census taken at the beginning of the war 1939 and that it was available on line,
I think you are have seen is about the 1939 National Register (compiled for issuing Ration Books, and for other war-time administion duties)
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Re: 1921 and 1939 census
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Re: 1921 and 1939 census
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 16 February 16 10:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi Helen

There are also some Electoral Rolls which will give some details about an address
They will not list everyone at an address and are not complete ( geo nor dates )

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Re: 1921 and 1939 census
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 16 February 16 11:18 GMT (UK) »
The census are usually 'available' on the first working day of January following the 100th anniversary. So Tuesday 4th of January 1922 for the next one. However it depends on how they define 'available'. If HMG only make it available to a partner for scanning on that date, it will not go online until many months later.

Personally I think the government should own the scanning and lease the copies to a partner for a set period, say seven years. They can then even provide free access at a future date. Or am I just dreaming.

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Re: 1921 and 1939 census
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 16 February 16 13:24 GMT (UK) »
Spare a thought for those tracing their folk in Northern Ireland.  There was no 1921 all Ireland census for rather obvious reasons.  The first Northern Ireland census took place in 1926, but it has since been confirmed that those census records are gone. There was no 1931 census of Northern Ireland and the next one in 1937 was limited in terms of some information being omitted (eg. occupation).  Like the rest of the UK, there was no 1941 census of Northern Ireland.

On top of all that happened to the 19th century all-Ireland census material, what a tragedy!