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Scotland/ Kilmarnock/Ayr/ Susan Somervell born 1824
« on: Thursday 18 February 16 00:25 GMT (UK) »
The above married Peter Robertson (born 1815 in ?? country) in 1846 in Auckland New Zealand.

Does anyone have Susan Somervell's parents in their tree or any information on her? ??? ??? ???

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Re: Scotland/ Kilmarnock/Ayr/ Susan Somervell born 1824
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 18 February 16 11:38 GMT (UK) »
A number of family trees have the following:

Name: 
Susan Somervell
 
Birth:  13 Feb 1824 - Scotland
Death:  22 Jan 1911 - Auckland, New Zealand
Marriage:  1844 - Auckland, Auckland, Auckland, New Zealand
Parents:  John Somervell, Jane Reid 
Spouse:  Peter Robertson

None say born Ayrshire, some say Lanarkshire, however her birth record does not appear on Scotlands People near that date.

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Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.

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Re: Scotland/ Kilmarnock/Ayr/ Susan Somervell born 1824
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 18 February 16 23:35 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so very much Colin. Where did you find the family trees? they may assist me getting back further generations. Kindest Regards Dan ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Scotland/ Kilmarnock/Ayr/ Susan Somervell born 1824
« Reply #3 on: Friday 19 February 16 10:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dan,
The trees were on Ancestry, none seem to have found the birth record. There are records on Ancestry for Susan/Susanna/Susannah - Somervil/Somerville?Sommerville. So I guess some are thinking that the one on the 1841 census in Lanarkshire is her.

There are birth records on Scotland's People but as far as I can tell they are before 1817 and after 1830 but I could be wrong, it might be worth checking?

Colin
Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.


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Re: Scotland/ Kilmarnock/Ayr/ Susan Somervell born 1824
« Reply #4 on: Friday 19 February 16 13:38 GMT (UK) »
From the a/try tree that Colin mentions, http://person.ancestry.co.uk/tree/6583129/person/-1266284616/facts - it gives Susan's date of arrival in NZ in 1842. This is the manifest referred to on the tree here http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ourstuff/DuchessofArgyle.htm

The tree mentions that the Henry showing on the manifest was her brother. No sources given for this. The Glasgow birth details on the tree show as 13 FEB 1824 Bridgeton, Glasgow.

First born daughter is given as Jane Reid Robertson. Wondered whether this might be a reference to Susan's mother? Haven't found anything further on this though so far.

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Re: Scotland/ Kilmarnock/Ayr/ Susan Somervell born 1824
« Reply #5 on: Friday 19 February 16 13:43 GMT (UK) »
Someone else shows these details for Susan www.ancestry.co.uk/genealogy/records/susan-somervell_86794502

Whilst useful, always hard to work through details from other's research when direct sources are not given for verification  :-\

However, there is one possible entry for a sibling here https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X17N-FQ2 to a couple with those names in Glasgow.

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Re: Scotland/ Kilmarnock/Ayr/ Susan Somervell born 1824
« Reply #6 on: Friday 19 February 16 22:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,

Found an interesting entry on 1841 Census.

Glasgow , St John Parish, Marlborough Street

ROBERTSON   John   M   30   Ropemaker Journeyman    Lanarkshire       
 ROBERTSON   Isobella   F   25       England       
 ROBERTSON   John   M   10       Lanarkshire       
 ROBERTSON   Elisbath   F   7       Lanarkshire       
 ROBERTSON   Robert   M   3       Lanarkshire       
 ROBERTSON   James   M   1       Lanarkshire       
 SOMERVAIL   Henry   M   20   Rope Maker Journeyman    Lanarkshire       
 SOMERVAIL   Ann   F   18   Power Weaver Loom    Lanarkshire       
 SOMERVAIL   Susan   F   16   Power Weaver Loom    Unknown       
 GOUDIE   Margret   F   18   Power Weaver Loom    Lanarkshire       

It being 1841 , of course no relationships  between the householders are recorded. But this is a Susan Somervail (Somerville ?) living with a Henry and Ann of same name (siblings perhaps) and with a family of Robertsons (co-incidence ?) .

Intriguingly this Susan's birthplace is unknown

Looby
   

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Re: Scotland/ Kilmarnock/Ayr/ Susan Somervell born 1824
« Reply #7 on: Friday 19 February 16 22:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi again,

Having studied the manifest for the Duchess of Argyll it looks like the Robertson family from the 1841 Census with Henry and Susan Somervail/Somervell are also on board and sadly lose a male child on the voyage 30th Jul 1842.

Looby (I would use a smiley face here but since upgrading to Windows 10 my smileys don't work !)

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Re: Scotland/ Kilmarnock/Ayr/ Susan Somervell born 1824
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 20 February 16 16:08 GMT (UK) »
Hey, that 1841 entry really helps I think Looby,   :) :) one from you  ;)

Monica
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