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Saltonstall's 1891 census
« on: Saturday 20 February 16 16:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
I don't suppose anyone can cast a fresh eye & find the Saltonstall family on the 1891 census?

Sarah J Saltonstall 1851
Clara Saltonstall    1877
Milton Saltonstall 1878
Emma Saltonstall  1880   
Elisha Saltonstall   1882
they are from the Yorkshire area Todmorden.

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Re: Saltonstall's 1891 census
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 20 February 16 16:38 GMT (UK) »
For anyone looking places of birth in 1901 are as follows
Sarah J Saltonstall   Cragg Vale, Yorkshire
Clara    Sowerby, Yorkshire
Milton    Sowerby, Yorkshire
Emma    Sowerby, Yorkshire
Elisha      Cragg Vale, Yorkshire
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Re: Saltonstall's 1891 census
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 20 February 16 18:17 GMT (UK) »
For anyone looking places of birth in 1901 are as follows
Sarah J Saltonstall   Cragg Vale, Yorkshire
Clara    Sowerby, Yorkshire
Milton    Sowerby, Yorkshire
Emma    Sowerby, Yorkshire
Elisha      Cragg Vale, Yorkshire
Sorry forgot that bit. ::)
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Re: Saltonstall's 1891 census
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 20 February 16 18:52 GMT (UK) »
Whilst i'm here would does anyone know if there would be official reason rather than personal reason as to why

Sarah J Saltonstall born Sarah Jane Lumb 1854 to Samuel Lumb & Elizabeth Law, upon marriage to Thomas Saltonstall in Dec 1874 listed herself as Sarah Law (her mother's maiden name) & her fathers name was left blank even though he didn't die until 1880?
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Re: Saltonstall's 1891 census
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 21 February 16 08:27 GMT (UK) »
Is this the family in 1871  :-\
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZGP-996

Samuel Lumb   47 bn Sowerby, Yorkshire
Elizabeth    53 bn Royston, Yorkshire
Sarah 19   Bradford, Yorkshire
Mary 17   Bradford, Yorkshire

If it is Sarah is listed as 19 which would mean she was probably born before Samuel Lumbs marriage to Elizabeth Law in March qtr 1853 and Samuel may not have been her father
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Re: Saltonstall's 1891 census
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 21 February 16 10:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi Rosie,
Your right i never thought of that, 6 of the children were all baptised on the same day in 1863, listing their DOB funny thing is Sarah's is 20/7/1850 & her sister Mary Ellen's is 18/1/1853. Sarah's does not match up with the all her other info & both girls appeared to have been born before Samuel & Elizabeth married. maybe Sarah did not like samuel though he seemed to have taken her on as his own! I'm still no closer to finding them on the census though  :-\
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Re: Saltonstall's 1891 census
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 21 February 16 11:35 GMT (UK) »
Is this the family in 1871  :-\
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZGP-996

Samuel Lumb   47 bn Sowerby, Yorkshire
Elizabeth    53 bn Royston, Yorkshire
Sarah 19   Bradford, Yorkshire
Mary 17   Bradford, Yorkshire

If it is Sarah is listed as 19 which would mean she was probably born before Samuel Lumbs marriage to Elizabeth Law in March qtr 1853 and Samuel may not have been her father

Are there two Samuel & Elizabeth LUMB's?

The above 1871c gives middle initials for
Sarah ' F' &
Mary 'E'

there are these baptism but no mother's name given

Sarah Frances Lumb born 4 Feb 1852
Birth Place:   Ebenezer Methodist Chapel, Bradford, York, England
Baptism 20 Feb 1852 Ebenezer Methodist Chapel, Bradford, York, England
Father:   Samuel Lumb

Mary Ellen Lumb born 12 Mar 1854
Birth Place:   Ebenezer Methodist Chapel, Bradford, York, England
Baptism 23 Apr 1854 Ebenezer Methodist Chapel, Bradford, York, England
Father:   Samuel Lumb

Then there's this 1871 census entry RG10; Piece: 4415; Folio: 40; Page: 14
with sisters Sarah J LAW & Mary E LUMB parents Samuel & Elizabeth

Bank Bottom Sowerby
Samuel LUMB 44 Halifax Stonecutter
Elizabeth 44 ditto
Sarah J LAW 20 ditto mill hand cotton
Mary E LUMB 17 ditto ditto
William H 16 ditto ditto
Ely 14 ditto ditto
George 11 ditto ditto
Elizabeth A 8 ditto
John T 5 ditto
Selena 2 ditto

1861 RG 9; Piece: 3294; Folio: 66; Page: 17
Marshaw Bank Bottom Sowerby
Samuel LUMB 33 stone quarrier
(Samuel son of Eli Lumb & Sarah see 1851c HO107; Piece: 2300; Folio: 223; Page: 1)
Elizabeth 32
SARAH J 10
Mary E 7
William H 6
Ely 4
Susannah 2
George 1








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Re: Saltonstall's 1891 census
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 21 February 16 11:42 GMT (UK) »
This looks to be Elizabeth LUMB on 1881 census with 6 of her children

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKXL-YBG3

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Re: Saltonstall's 1891 census
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 21 February 16 12:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Rosie,
Your right i never thought of that, 6 of the children were all baptised on the same day in 1863, listing their DOB funny thing is Sarah's is 20/7/1850 & her sister Mary Ellen's is 18/1/1853. Sarah's does not match up with the all her other info & both girls appeared to have been born before Samuel & Elizabeth married. maybe Sarah did not like samuel though he seemed to have taken her on as his own! I'm still no closer to finding them on the census though  :-\

The chances are that Samuel was not Sarah's father then but just 'adopted' as a daughter by him.
Mary Ellen is probably his though as she was born close to their wedding.  ;D 

I am still looking to answer your original request as to where Sarah is on census in 1891  :D
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