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need help: JEWELL/JOEL Arthur Albert dob 6/4/1845
« on: Tuesday 23 February 16 18:53 GMT (UK) »
Have an Arthur Albert Jewell or Joel born 6/4/1845 to John and Caroline Jewell. Looking for his marriage details. His son Ernest Henry Joel was a homechild shipped to Canada in 1906 via the Fegans homes. On his Marriage certificate he lists his father as Arthur Albert Joel and his mother as Edna Wilson. I cannot find any marriage records for Arthur at all...I have seen an Albert Jewell married to a Susan Singleton but not sure if this is the same family.

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Re: need help: JEWELL/JOEL Arthur Albert dob 6/4/1845
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 23 February 16 19:04 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat :)

Where was Arthur Albert born in 1845, and how old was Ernest when he went to Canada in 1906?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: need help: JEWELL/JOEL Arthur Albert dob 6/4/1845
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 23 February 16 19:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

Can you supply some more info please.

What year was Ernest Henry born and where was he born? 

 
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Re: need help: JEWELL/JOEL Arthur Albert dob 6/4/1845
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 23 February 16 19:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi is listed as 12 years old when arriving in 1906 so 1893/94

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Re: need help: JEWELL/JOEL Arthur Albert dob 6/4/1845
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 23 February 16 19:13 GMT (UK) »
I see that 6 April 1845 is that date on which Arthur Jewell was baptised (not born) at Siddington, Gloucestershire.

How have you identified this Arthur as the father of Ernest?

There is another researcher on Rootschat (username Greaves) who has done a lot of work on the Jewell families of Siddington.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: need help: JEWELL/JOEL Arthur Albert dob 6/4/1845
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 23 February 16 19:15 GMT (UK) »
Ernest listed Arthur Albert Jewell as his father on his marriage certificate in 1918 in Canada

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Re: need help: JEWELL/JOEL Arthur Albert dob 6/4/1845
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 23 February 16 23:45 GMT (UK) »
I see he married as Earnest Henry Joel aged 23 on 8 April 1918 - giving his birthplace as Woodstock, Ontario.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: need help: JEWELL/JOEL Arthur Albert dob 6/4/1845
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 23 February 16 23:53 GMT (UK) »
1851 census for Siddington - all born there


John Jewell   55 labourer
Caroline  45
Joseph  24
William  19
Emily  19
Rhoda 18
Leah  11
Sarah  9
Myra 7
Arthur 6
Edith 4
Edgar 2
HO107 Piece 1968 Folio 290 Page 7

I have sent an email to the person who notified a mistranscription on this census with the link to this post - somebody called Gregory - is he known to you?   
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Re: need help: JEWELL/JOEL Arthur Albert dob 6/4/1845
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 24 February 16 00:56 GMT (UK) »
I can see Ernest aged 7 living in Gloucestershire with Arthur and siblings in 1901 including a brother William aged 10.  I can see William JOEL of Gloucestershire aged 15 going to Canada in 1906 but I can't see Ernest - what ship did he travel on?

Susan is not with the family in 1901 but Arthur is married, not widowed, and I think she died in 1897.

I can't see Arthur using 'Arthur Albert' at all, just Arthur.

Debra  :)

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