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Re: Who was Fanny Blackwell / Carr
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 02 March 16 16:32 GMT (UK) »
If it was this registration, it may have occurred at the registry office, as I couldn't find the church, using BucksFHS, Church finder facility.  So I am unable to check the parish regs for it.
If it was a registry office marriage, then the cert would have to be purchased to find out for sure.

William Carr.
1864.
O/N/D.
Wycombe
Buckinghamshire.
V - 3a
P - 704

I would suggest to you, that you contact BucksFHS, and ask for a search of their marriage database, for William Carr marriages, with a good spread of years.  If a marriage did occur in a Registry Office, BucksFHS are unable to give answers, as it's only parish records that they have, not Registry Office marriages.

The two marriages I found for you, are of two different William Carr's.  One with father as George Carr(Fanny Plumridge), the other with father as John Carr(Elizabeth Blackwell).

I also think, there is another William Carr, 3 in total, possibly 4, but not sure, as the places of birth vary so much.
It may also be an idea, to ask for a baptism search for William Carr, again with a sensible spread of years.  But saying that, not all children were baptized, only registered.

These 2 searches(Marriage & Baptism), would cost you £2 in total, and results are received via email.

EDITED.

According to Family Search, Fanny Blackwell was baptized, 22 May 1831 @West Wycombe, to Henry & Elizabeth Blackwell. (Confirmed in 1841 census).

Now I ask, are Fanny Blackwell and Fanny Plumridge, one and the same.  Did Fanny Blackwell, marry a Plumridge, and then marry William Carr.  BUT, she was single in the marriage I found, in the name of Plumridge, as was William Carr, shown as single, and not widowed(either of them).

Maybe the 1864 cert will show more. ???

Steve. :)
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Re: Who was Fanny Blackwell / Carr
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 02 March 16 17:34 GMT (UK) »
This is purely end of thumb but I suspect Fanny B and Fanny P are two different people because of the 1881 census - two Fanny wed to two William! Especially as one has an Elizabeth of the right age with them.

Many thanks for suggestions.  Will see what I can arrange -   accept credit card payment for such a small sum?  Great that results will be e mailed.

Thank you rootschatters all for input - most appreciated.

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Re: Who was Fanny Blackwell / Carr
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 02 March 16 19:02 GMT (UK) »

To confuse the issue 1881 Census are living Vine Terrace, Chipping Wycombe, Wycombe
William Carr 44 (1837) a sawyer
Fanny Carr 49 (1832)
Elizabeth age 18 -born 1863!!??


1881 census Elizabeth has a middle initial of H possibly for (Helen/Ellen)  :-\

1861 RG 9; Piece: 858; Folio: 111; Page: 11
Ditchfield
John Carr 55 occ Bricklayer
Sophia 54
WILLIAM 22 Great Marlow, Buckinghamshire occ Chair maker
Ellen 19
John 17
Charles 14
Ann 10

1871 RG10; Piece: 1405; Folio: 111; Page: 12;
William CARR 33 Marlow, Buckinghamshire occ Labourer
Fanny 39 Marlow, Buckinghamshire
Elizth Ellen 8 Marlow, Buckinghamshire

1881 RG11; Piece: 1463; Folio: 63; Page: 41
William CARR 44 Gt Marlow occ Sawyer
Fanny 49 West Wycombe
Eliz’th H 18 Gt Marlow dress maker

1882 Wycombe   3a   817
Hezekiah   JAMES
female name on same page
Elizabeth Helen CARR    

1891 RG12; Piece: 3822; Folio: 71; Page: 6 living Sheffield
Hezekiah JAMES occ Chair Manuf
Elizabeth 28 Great Marlow, Buckinghamshire
William CARR 52 occ dittoed as Chair Manfct.
Francis wife 59 West Wycombe

Possible death

1898 Sheffield vol 9c page 316
Frances CARR age 67 (1831)

1901 RG13; Piece: 4368; Folio: 166; Page: 33 living in Sheffield
Hezekiah JAMES 40 occ Furniture porter
Elizabeth E wife 38 Gt Marlow
Frank 8 Sheffield
William CARR father in law Wid. 63 Great Marlow occ labourer
Frank & John Baumber

not sure if this is the correct death for William due to age  :-\

1910 Sheffield 9c   351
William CARR age 65   

Latest census shows Elizabeth's middle name as Ellen

If the above Fanny was the Fanny Blackwell that married William Carr in 1864
this might be her on 1841c ,

just noticed that Rosie99  had already posted the link from familysearch for 1851 & 1861 census for Fanny Blackwell  :)

1861 RG 9; Piece: 862; Folio: 6; Page: 6
Fanny Blackwell 29 Lane End, Buckinghamshire occ House servant

1851 HO107; Piece: 1720; Folio: 526; Page: 26
Fanny Blackwell 19 Lane End, Buckinghamshire  servant

There are two Fanny Blackwell’s on 1841 c in Buckinghamshire

1841 HO107; Piece: 55 West Wycombe; E D 14; F3; P4
Fanney Blackwell age 10 - Henry & Elizabeth

1841 HO107; Piece: 45 Beaconsfield; E D 4; F11; P16;
Fanny Blackwell age 10 – William & Priscilla
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Re: Who was Fanny Blackwell / Carr
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 02 March 16 22:02 GMT (UK) »

The Blackwell name, in addition to the Bucks=wycombe>chesham>chorleywood areas also cross over the border into Herts.

Blackwells were landowners into Sarratt/Chipperfield

Even more recent, the Blackwell Cafe in Chipperfield.

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Re: Who was Fanny Blackwell / Carr
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 02 March 16 22:48 GMT (UK) »
This is purely end of thumb but I suspect Fanny B and Fanny P are two different people because of the 1881 census - two Fanny wed to two William! Especially as one has an Elizabeth of the right age with them.

Many thanks for suggestions.  Will see what I can arrange -   accept credit card payment for such a small sum?  Great that results will be e mailed.

Thank you rootschatters all for input - most appreciated.

Regards

Ceeoh

From Familysearch.
Elizabeth Helen Carr(aged 20), married Hezekiah James(aged 21). 6 Aug 1882 @ High Wycombe.  Fathers are William Carr & Daniel James.

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Yes, they do accept small amounts with C/Card, and results may take a week or less, as it's run by volunteers.
I was clutching at straws, suggesting the origins of the two Fanny's, but would love to hear the end result.  Please keep us informed with any outcome.

As a side note, if you have a lot of Buckinghamshire interests, On-line membership of BucksFHS is quite cheap(£6), and with the membership, you get an hour's free research at the Bucks archives. (I'm not touting for business, it's the fact they are a wonderful FH society, and run as a charity).

Regards, Steve. :)
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Re: Who was Fanny Blackwell / Carr
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 02 March 16 23:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Will digest all the extra information tomorrow - many thanks (late here now we are 2 hours ahead of U.K.)

As a matter of interest I was in Milton Keynes for 6 months last year but the Carr research had been on the back burner for more than four years.  Oh if only I had realised - so near and yet so far!!

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Re: Who was Fanny Blackwell / Carr
« Reply #24 on: Friday 04 March 16 15:51 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks all.
Have made some further enquiries and will definitely post what I find.

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Re: Who was Fanny Blackwell / Carr
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 20 March 16 17:28 GMT (UK) »
Sorry nothing to report yet.  No response to query with Bucks FHS and only an automated response from Bucks registrars on 3 March.

Will wait a bit longer.

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Re: Who was Fanny Blackwell / Carr
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 22 March 16 12:45 GMT (UK) »
Good day.

Have heard from Beaconsfield Registrar.  Was hoping they would be kind enough to just tell me who Fanny's father was but sadly they require me to buy the  certificate for £10 + £1.50 postage.  That converts to R251 -  very expensive for me.
Hopefully I may yet hear from Bucks FHS.
If the relationship between William and my husband's Carr connection had been close I may have been tempted, but if I have worked it out correctly my husband's great great grandfather and William were  brothers.
A couple of £ to Bucks FHS - not a problem - would like to solve the puzzle.

More when I hear something.

Many thanks for all help,

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