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Re: Obtaining BDM certificates
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 01 March 16 03:51 GMT (UK) »
Names are Michael Honan and Winnifred Heffernan
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Re: Obtaining BDM certificates
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 01 March 16 04:07 GMT (UK) »
Thanks,

Michael HONAN, obtained his Ticket of Leave in 1839 (39/1808), and was allowed to remain in the District of Braidwood.  He had been tried at Waterford and arrived on the Hero in 1835.  He was a labourer.     He received his Certificate of Freedom 15 September 1841. (41/1267)   

It is possible that if the marriage was prior to that date (15 Sept 1841)  that the clergy MAY have noted the ship of arrival on the parish register.    The District of Braidwood did not include the Port Phillip District, so I am surprised to see that the 1841 marriage is listed as in the  “LR”  district.   This is for a Roman Catholic ceremony recorded in the parish register of St Francis, Melbourne.  Of course the Certificate of Freedom fully emancipated Michael HONAN, so from 15 Sept 1841 there was no requirement that he remain Braidwood. 

NSW BDM reference is for Volume 91, line 1077 of 1841
Names are Michael Honan and Winnifred Heffernan

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Re: Obtaining BDM certificates
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 01 March 16 04:17 GMT (UK) »
You may already have this
Michael apparently died in the Liverpool Asylum for the Infirm and Destitute in 1893, although I cannot see a death index entry for him in NSW.

Register of Inmates 1868-Apr 1889, Apr 1889-Sep 1890,
Liverpool Asylum for the Infirm and Destitute


Michael HONAN, 80, RC
Irishman, ship "Hero", 1835, labourer, born Waterford, widower, 3 children
Admitted 1 Sep 1886, discharged 25 September, 1990 "to Macquarie St"
Admitted 13 November 1990, discharged: died 26 February 1893
Name and address of relatives:
Brother in Mogo NSW.  There is another comment which I can't read - xxxx of children xxx unknown

Government Asylums for the Infirm and Destitute
Register of Inmates C-D, H-J, K-M, 1880-Nov 1896


Michael HONAN, 80
The information on this register is the same as the one above although I an read the reference to children:
Three children, residence unknown

There is an earlier register showing that he had been admitted to the Liverpool Asylum for the Infirm and Destitute, 8 February 1883 and discharged 18 February 1886, again the record mentions his ship of arrival Hero.

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Re: Obtaining BDM certificates
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 01 March 16 04:21 GMT (UK) »
TROVE has quite a few mentions of Patrick HONAN's family in Mogo.

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Re: Obtaining BDM certificates
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 01 March 16 05:29 GMT (UK) »
Hey thank you all for this information. It is all pieces in a puzzle.Is Trove a roots chat member? Hereford.

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Re: Obtaining BDM certificates
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 01 March 16 05:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

As you are based in NZ, you will be familiar with Papers Past.   http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast

Well, Trove is like papers past, only it is for Australian Newspapers, and much much more..

http://trove.nla.gov.au/

So the NZ National Library handles Papers Past and the Australian National Library handles Trove.
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=p&p=about&e=-------10--1----0--
and
http://help.nla.gov.au/trove/trove-support-zones

Cheers,  JM
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Re: Obtaining BDM certificates
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 01 March 16 05:53 GMT (UK) »
Thanks i will take a look at the paper.  hereford
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Re: Obtaining BDM certificates
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 01 March 16 05:58 GMT (UK) »


I think you are descended from Anastasia  HONAN?

Can you please say what you know about her....marriage...children....death

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Re: Obtaining BDM certificates
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 01 March 16 06:39 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, hereford, I shouldn't make assumptions!

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/

Mogo is a small town/village south of Batemans Bay on the south coast of NSW, about 300k south of Sydney and 20k north of Moruya.

Braidwood, which is inland, about 70k from Mogo, was mentioned as one of the places the HONANs went to.  In the early days wool, wheat and other farm produce from the Braidwood area was sent by a precipitous mountain track to Moruya and then on to Sydney by sea.

Mogo is mostly a touristy place now but there is an old gold mine which is open to the public.  Have a look on Googlemap and with google.

It seems that Patrick was quite well-known in the area according to the TROVE reports.

Have you found a death for Winifred at all?  I had a quick look but couldn't see anything.  Quite a sad lonely ending for Michael.

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