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Higgin family of Puddington
« on: Friday 04 March 16 11:51 GMT (UK) »
I was just wondering if anybody might have any information or knowledge of the Higgin family or their homes Puddington Hall and Puddington Old Hall.

I would be most grateful for any information.

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Re: Higgin family of Puddington
« Reply #1 on: Friday 04 March 16 12:07 GMT (UK) »
What dates are you referring to? Puddington Hall was totally destroyed by fire on 12th December 1867, it was occupied by a Mr. Sparrow. Puddington Old Hall was damaged by fire 10th October 1897, it was occupied by John Bushby.
Map at http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sidebyside.cfm#zoom=16&lat=53.2539&lon=-3.0087&layers=171&right=BingHyb
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Re: Higgin family of Puddington
« Reply #2 on: Friday 04 March 16 12:22 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for the information.

The family association with Puddington started in the early 1900s I think, when a Liverpool cotton merchant called Arthur Bendyshe Earle (1857-1937) purchased property in the area (most notably he left a huge sum of money in his will to Liverpool's city social services department). He only had a daughter called Olive (1895-1978) who married a Liverpool cotton broker called Walter Wynnefield Higgin (1889-1971). The latter served as a High Sheriff of Cheshire in 1938.

Variously in newspaper articles they are described as being of "Puddington Hall" and "Puddington Old Hall," so I assumed they must have lived in them. I have little knowledge of their role in the life and history of Puddington, and until recently had assumed both halls were the same place. The eldest son (and presumably heir) of Walter was Michael Earle Sinclair Higgin, but I believe he relocated to the United States.

In general I am looking for information about the family and their connection to the area.

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Re: Higgin family of Puddington
« Reply #3 on: Friday 04 March 16 13:45 GMT (UK) »
Puddington Hall must have been rebuilt, after the  fire. There is a 1970s photo at http://www.rootschat.com/links/01h6p/
Confusingly the is another one called Puddington Hall at http://www.rootschat.com/links/01h6q/ which is completely different.


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Re: Higgin family of Puddington
« Reply #4 on: Friday 04 March 16 16:13 GMT (UK) »
Many kind thanks. That is fairly confusing, but I would guess the first picture is of the property associated with my family. On the Cheshire image bank I found this picture of W.W. Higgin which perhaps more resembles the first link.

http://cheshireimagebank.org.uk/frontend.php?action=zoom&keywords=Ref_No_increment;MATCHES;(%5E%7C%20+)ch6786($%7C%20+)&continueUrl=ZnJvbnRlbmQucGhwPyZhY3Rpb249c2VhcmNoJnBhZ2U9MTExMQ==

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Re: Higgin family of Puddington
« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 March 16 19:27 GMT (UK) »
. The eldest son (and presumably heir) of Walter was Michael Earle Sinclair Higgin, but I believe he relocated to the United States.
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so realistically we need to work backwards from Michael
b 1920 mmn earle
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1918 Walter W Higgin married Olive Earle
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Walter Wynefied Higgin was born in Mossley Hill , Liverpool in 1890...( as it happens 2 miles from my home )
father William S Higgin - mother Jean Higgin
1891 census has them in Wavertree ,Liverpool with a 1 month old daughter - no name - and 4 servants
William S Higgin is 35 born Lancashire and Jean is 34 born Scotland...can't find a marriage on freebmd so I presume they married in Scotland ....will look for the marriage
ADDED - no luck with marriage - I wonder if Jean maiden name was Wynefield / Winefield with it being Walters middle name ??
ADDED again - forget that suggestion about Jean being a Wynefield / Winefield - I think it should be Walter Winfield Higgin and it was mistranscribed as Wynefield....the reason being there are a few
Walter Winfield Higgin - and
Winfield Higgin on Lan-opc - and they are Gentlemen / Cotton Manufacturer
if my thoughts are right - your Higgin may have been from Lancaster - needs more research

see what you think

Baptism: 7 Jun 1817 St Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Winfield Higgin - Son of Thomas Housman Higgin & Sarah
    Born: 6 Apr 1817
    Abode: Lancaster
    Occupation: Gentleman

Marriage: 15 Dec 1842 St Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Winfield Higgin - of full age, Manufacturer, Bachelor, Greenfield
Sarah Mason - of full age, Spinster, Queen Square
    Groom's Father: Thomas Housman Higgin, Manufacturer
    Bride's Father: Thomas Mason, Merchant

Baptism: 1 Nov 1843 St Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Walter Winfield Higgin - Son of Winfield Higgin & Sarah
    Born: 7 Sep 1843
    Abode: Lancaster
    Occupation: Cotton Manufacturer

Burial: 1 Mar 1844 St Mary, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Walter Winfield Higgin -
    Age: Inft.
    Abode: Lancr.

I think that your Walter Wynefield Higgin - father of Michael Earle Sinclair Higgin is somehow connected to the Lancaster Higgin family ....probably needs someone more experienced than me to research William S Higgin birth and parents - in census it says he was 35 in 1891 and born in Lancashire
good luck
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Re: Higgin family of Puddington
« Reply #6 on: Friday 04 March 16 19:40 GMT (UK) »
Walter Wynnefield Higgin's of Puddington Hall, Puddington Newton Wirral Cheshire died 9 August 1971. His probate record shows he left £116,066

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Re: Higgin family of Puddington
« Reply #7 on: Friday 04 March 16 19:46 GMT (UK) »
Walter received his Royal Aero Club Aviators Certificate on 9 March 1916.
Plane - Maurice Farman Biplane.

Walter was a Lieutenant with 6th (Rifle) Bn. The King's Liverpool Regiment.

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Re: Higgin family of Puddington
« Reply #8 on: Friday 04 March 16 19:58 GMT (UK) »
Walter Wynnefield Higgin's of Puddington Hall, Puddington Newton Wirral Cheshire died 9 August 1971. His probate record shows he left £116,066

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that Newton is a mistranscription - it should say Neston - my family are from Neston and I have visited a few times - Puddington Hall was in Puddington ,Neston - unless there are TWO ??

HAD to google it ...lol
Puddington Hall, Puddington Village, Puddington, Neston CH64 5ST

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