John Murtagh 1880 Westmeath

[Sinann]

There is also the possibility Kathleen wasn't John's daughter at all but the child of an unmarried relative, which might explain why we can't find her birth.

[Sinann]

Sometimes a marriage is written on the baptism but no such luck with John
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000635128#page/106/mode/1up
4th down on left hand page.
The Delvin register starts 1785 we could have a ball working back if we could only prove he's the correct person.

[CathyD59]

My mum lived with them when they lived in Clogher Road and she always said he was her uncle, I think she lived with them until she was in her late teens, my mums brother (not sure if he's still living) and his wife stayed there when John and Masie moved to London, if that makes sense.
I hope we have the right family lol.

[Sinann]

Perhaps it's you mothers brother you should try and find.
You could look for a death first, do you know his wife's name?
https://www.iannounce.co.uk/Irish-Independent/750/Death/death?_fstatus=search
http://notices.irishtimes.com/obituaries-and-death-notices/2006-02-03?page=1

[sue21757]

There is a marriage
26/11/1907
John Murtagh
Mary Daly Dublin South.

There are 2 births registered with MMN Daly
Mary 20/4/1910
Christopher 23/12/1911

There is also a birth
29/5/1908
Unknown Murtagh (female)
MMN Murtagh

Just something to think about.

[Sinann]

There is a marriage
26/11/1907
John Murtagh
Mary Daly Dublin South.

There are 2 births registered with MMN Daly
Mary 20/4/1910
Christopher 23/12/1911

There is also a birth
29/5/1908
Unknown Murtagh (female)
MMN Murtagh

Just something to think about.

We have them Sue but without Kathleen's birth we still don't know if they are the correct couple.

[Sinann]

The Kathleen born 1908 mother Byrne appears to be this family, note the single sister in law Byrne.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Wood_Quay__part_of_/Long_Lane/81398/
So that birth can be ruled out.

[CathyD59]

Because Kathleen died when my mum was young she didn't remember much so I only know a few things, she lived in Maxwell Street, he brother John went to live with his granny (I'm thinking Mary), my mum Teresa and her sister Margaret were sent to an orphanage and then they were taken in by their Uncle John and Aunt Masie who lived on Clogher Rd  Crumlin.  John and Masie came to London at some point and live here for years not sure if they died here or Ireland.

[CathyD59]

Where is Mullingar as I just remember mum saying something about Mullingar maybe something to do with her granny (Mary?)