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1715 Will of William Thurlby - deciphering help, please
« on: Sunday 13 March 16 09:12 GMT (UK) »
I have here two extracts from a 1715 Will - I have managed most of it (or at least I think I have)  I am a bit stuck on what Robert got.  I think he got a bay filley and a paire of ?????

As for daughter Elizabeth I think she got a pair of candlesticks and a pewter tankard plus the biggest something and is it a brandreth?

Help please!
Plant - Suffolk, Cambridgeshire, Northamptonshire, Lincolnshire
Bothamley, Pateman, Roffe,  - Northamptonshire
Thurlby, Baker, Kilbon - Lincolnshire
Hurry, Bishop - Cambridgeshire
Pretty, Coulson - Rutland
Shaw - Nottinghamshire
De Rippe - Rutland, Middlesex, Carlow

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Re: 1715 Will of William Thurlby - deciphering help, please
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 13 March 16 10:10 GMT (UK) »
... Bigger Cross- p???
Or
brass-p???
 :-\


Two bay filleys? :-\

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Re: 1715 Will of William Thurlby - deciphering help, please
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 13 March 16 10:18 GMT (UK) »
Not sure Ruskie.  I wondered if it said "sauc-pann".  I suppose it could be brass-pann.  That looks possible.

Whenever I find an old document, I am always cock a hoop until then I realise I cant blummin read it..........
Plant - Suffolk, Cambridgeshire, Northamptonshire, Lincolnshire
Bothamley, Pateman, Roffe,  - Northamptonshire
Thurlby, Baker, Kilbon - Lincolnshire
Hurry, Bishop - Cambridgeshire
Pretty, Coulson - Rutland
Shaw - Nottinghamshire
De Rippe - Rutland, Middlesex, Carlow


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Re: 1715 Will of William Thurlby - deciphering help, please
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 13 March 16 10:20 GMT (UK) »
I am just guessing barmaid. There are plenty of experts who will be able to help you.  :)

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Re: 1715 Will of William Thurlby - deciphering help, please
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 13 March 16 10:34 GMT (UK) »
It's certainly "Brass pann" but what comes next is difficult to read without the start of the following line. It looks like "brandee*" and then a possible hyphen. Brandy bowl perhaps.

I'm still looking at the "paire of.....

Steve
Bumstead - London, Suffolk
Plant, Woolnough, Wase, Suffolk
Flexney, Godfrey, Burson, Hobby -  Oxfordshire
Street, Mitchell - Gloucestershire
Horwood, Heale Drew - Bristol
Gibbs, Gait, Noyes, Peters, Padfield, Board, York, Rogers, Horler, Heale, Emery, Clavey, Mogg, - Somerset
Fook, Snell - Devon
M(a)cDonald, Yuell, Gollan, McKenzie - Rosshire
McLennan, Mackintosh - Inverness
Williams, Jones - Angelsey & Caernarvon

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Re: 1715 Will of William Thurlby - deciphering help, please
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 13 March 16 10:35 GMT (UK) »
I think now possibly "a paire of steares" - cattle perhaps?

Steve
Bumstead - London, Suffolk
Plant, Woolnough, Wase, Suffolk
Flexney, Godfrey, Burson, Hobby -  Oxfordshire
Street, Mitchell - Gloucestershire
Horwood, Heale Drew - Bristol
Gibbs, Gait, Noyes, Peters, Padfield, Board, York, Rogers, Horler, Heale, Emery, Clavey, Mogg, - Somerset
Fook, Snell - Devon
M(a)cDonald, Yuell, Gollan, McKenzie - Rosshire
McLennan, Mackintosh - Inverness
Williams, Jones - Angelsey & Caernarvon

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Re: 1715 Will of William Thurlby - deciphering help, please
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 13 March 16 10:41 GMT (UK) »
Ahhh, now that would fit, thanks Steve.  He left other children "one lamb" "one cow" etc (he was a husbandman).  Yes that makes perfect sense, thank you.

I think after brass-pann it says "and the brandreth".  Unfortunately, the first bit of each word at the beginning of the line has not copied. 
Plant - Suffolk, Cambridgeshire, Northamptonshire, Lincolnshire
Bothamley, Pateman, Roffe,  - Northamptonshire
Thurlby, Baker, Kilbon - Lincolnshire
Hurry, Bishop - Cambridgeshire
Pretty, Coulson - Rutland
Shaw - Nottinghamshire
De Rippe - Rutland, Middlesex, Carlow

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Re: 1715 Will of William Thurlby - deciphering help, please
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 13 March 16 21:03 GMT (UK) »
Several on-line dictionaries give this as a meaning for 'brandreth' -
an iron tripod or trivet placed over a fire.
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: 1715 Will of William Thurlby - deciphering help, please
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 17 March 16 12:55 GMT (UK) »
I read "two paire of sheares"
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