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Re: Who are Edward's parents?
« Reply #18 on: Friday 18 March 16 16:24 GMT (UK) »
Does the army record give that Thomas' dob?

28 yrs 10 months on attestation which was 22 Feb 1919.

So born Mar-Apr 1890.

He joined the Royal Tank Corps, as had Edward Patrick Evenden much earlier (on 28 Apr 1908 aged 14 yrs 11 months).

Both had "musician" as their trade on enlistment.

Thomas's wife is listed as Frances Maud nee Scanlan, married 20.10.1923 in Greenwich.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Who are Edward's parents?
« Reply #19 on: Friday 18 March 16 16:36 GMT (UK) »
So born Mar-Apr 1890.
So could be the school record...

Marriage Greenwich again, wonder if marriage record can be found to give father's name? ADDED: No can't find parish records, probably too recent anyway.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
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Re: Who are Edward's parents?
« Reply #20 on: Friday 18 March 16 16:40 GMT (UK) »
Thomas may have been registered at birth as Thomas EVINTON, Jun qtr 1890 Camberwell.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Who are Edward's parents?
« Reply #21 on: Friday 18 March 16 16:50 GMT (UK) »
This is all looking good

Eliza seems to be in Greenwich area (well, the Registration district) in 1901, adding fuel to the theory the family moved there from Camberwell area

1901
Cross field Lane Deptford
Samuel and Susannah Wells and numerous children (he a bricklayer)
Eliza Evenden 19 visitor Starcher and laundress 

says bn Deptford, like the list of children. But next person down is bn Greenwich. It isn't beyond the realms of possibility that that birth place was meant to be on her line ....
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Who are Edward's parents?
« Reply #22 on: Friday 18 March 16 16:52 GMT (UK) »
Marriage
Oct/Nov/Dec 1904
Greenwich
ref 1d 1776
Eliza Evenden / James Scott or Albert William Willis
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Who are Edward's parents?
« Reply #23 on: Friday 18 March 16 16:55 GMT (UK) »
says bn Deptford, like the list of children. But next person down is bn Greenwich.
Bang next door anyway.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Who are Edward's parents?
« Reply #24 on: Friday 18 March 16 17:09 GMT (UK) »
Workhouse records mention a sister Eliza -3 Coppras Square  ::)
Out of interest, here's where Copperas St is - can't find the Square
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17&lat=51.4810&lon=-0.0196&layers=168
and why it was called that:
http://carolineld.blogspot.co.uk/2011/12/deptford-copperas.html
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Who are Edward's parents?
« Reply #25 on: Friday 18 March 16 17:37 GMT (UK) »
Morning Post 10 June 1897  - Double murder in Greenwich

Edward Callaghan murdered his sister Mary Ann Evenden and his niece by cutting their throats,   
Edward had been staying with the family 3 weeks as he was ill and had no work and his sister had asked him to leave as they couldn't keep him . Mary's husband William  (a bricklayer) and sons William and Charles are mentioned

Edit Another report mentions that they were living at Copperas Square at the time poor souls

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Re: Who are Edward's parents?
« Reply #26 on: Friday 18 March 16 17:54 GMT (UK) »
What a find, well done. Niece probably Annie, same page as Mary Ann.
Deaths Jun 1897   
Evenden    Annie    19    Greenwich    1d   501

Edward Callaghan announced insane on 30 Jun 1897, detained during Her Majesty's pleasure. 
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON