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About to give up on Inchnascallag 1861
« Reply #27 on: Monday 17 July 17 05:16 BST (UK) »
Hello! I am very new to ancestry, and asked for help with Craggan......thank you! but would love help in locating Inchnascallag where my great grandmother Grace Ross was in 1861census. Cannot find it! It was In the district and parish of Kincardine, Ross and Cromarty. She was a servant.
So much to learn and so much to distract me!
Cheerio.  Annie.

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Re: finding the church at Oykell???
« Reply #28 on: Monday 17 July 17 08:36 BST (UK) »
May I ask advice on the church at Oykell. I see one at Oykell bridge - my great grandparents were married in Oykell in 1862.Their certificate shows they were married in the Scottish Free Church....would Glens Church have been the only one in or around oykell at that time?
Look carefully at the certificate again. They were probably married according to the forms of the Free Church of Scotland, but it's unlikely that they were married in the church building itself. Until towards the end of the 19th century, most wedding ceremonies were held in the bride's parents' home, or, if she had no parents or was married a long way from home, in the manse or in her employer's home.
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Re: About to give up on Inchnascallag 1861
« Reply #29 on: Monday 17 July 17 08:41 BST (UK) »
Hello! I am very new to ancestry, and asked for help with Craggan......thank you! but would love help in locating Inchnascallag where my great grandmother Grace Ross was in 1861 census.
What were the other places on the same page of the census?
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Re: About to give up on Inchnascallag 1861
« Reply #30 on: Monday 17 July 17 17:41 BST (UK) »
I think I have got it.

In the 1841 census it's in ED 9, and it's listed between Inchnabeirag and Lubcroy. Inchnabeirag will be Innisnabiorach which is a mile or so west of Oykell Bridge.
See http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2531002

Another few hundred yards west is a habitable cottage
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1446776
which is shown on the second edition six-inch map as a school, but isn't marked on the first edition at all

A few more hundred yards west again is a ruin
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3444273
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2632465
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/4435861

And a few more hundred yards again is Lubcroy
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/433391

The burn that enters the River Oykell just upstream of the ruin
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/453232
is named on the first edition six-inch map as flowing through land named Innis an Scalaig.

So I think that Inchnascallag is probably that ruin.


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inchnascallag exists !
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 19 July 17 11:56 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much! Inchnascallag exists! We're coming to Scotland shortly, so now I know to head west of Oykel Bridge, about 1.5 m w- the old ruin- east of Lubcroy. Thank you!
However, I thought I had located my grandfathers birthplace at Brackloch, district of Kirk...?....hard to decipher...Cipyats????? County Sutherland. I have the original birth certificate ( 1863). The 1871 census has himborn in Assynt, Sutherland where I see Brackloch.....a fair distance from Oykell  where  his parents  were married in 1862.
May I ask if travelling that distance- Oykel to Brackloch to Dalfaid would have been likely? I know his father William was a shepherd, but were the 1860s so chaotic?
My research has his family in  Dalfaid in district Rosehall ED2 , Craggan, Achness, Alness and Ardgay.
Cheerio and thanks for your assistance.         Annie.....my research skills are elementary! :(  :-\ :-\


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Re: Help in locating church ( parish of Alness)
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 19 July 17 12:00 BST (UK) »
Can you post the relevant image here so we can take a look at it?

Unfortunately Brackloch is another of those place names that crops up in various places, so we really need to know the parish to find the place. (I promise you it isn't Cipyats!) Though if the census says he was born in the parish of Assynt, that Brackloch by the River Inver looks right.

The birth index on SP says that Thomas Graham's birth was registered in Kirkton Assynt in the County of Sutherland*. Kirkton is probably the commonest place name in Scotland, because it just means the cluster of houses round the kirk, and of course every parish has a kirk so every parish has a kirkton.

*The following is completely off-topic but might possibly be of interest if you are going to Assynt (which I would definitely recommend). You will be amazed by the scenery, which is of course largely dictated by the underlying geology, and in fact Assynt is one of the world's greatest and most significant geological localities. The working out of the extreme complications of the geology of Assynt is largely credited to two men named Ben Peach and John Horne. Their work had major importance for the development of the knowledge of geology, and Assynt remains a mecca for geologists from all over the world who come to study the area. The reason I mention this is because Peach's second wife was the daughter of the schoolmaster at Kirkton Assynt. She was born in Kirkton Assynt in 1868. So if your grandfather had stayed long enough at Brackloch, he would probably have been taught by her father Angus MacEwen, who, incidentally, was also the Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages for Kirkton Assynt.

It's a fair hike from Brackloch to any of the other places you have mentioned, but I reckon that the other places are all within a good day's walk of one another. People did move around quite a bit by the 1860s, especially shepherds because when the Clearances took place to make way for sheep, the landlords often brought shepherds in from outside the immediate area.

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Re: William Graham residing in Craggan??? 1862
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 19 July 17 12:17 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for your reply. It makes sense that William would have been working as some sort of farm worker before his marriage. I'm going to try to find Craggan, west of Everton when I am visiting Scotland next year. Any hints on finding it would be great!!! There may be something still to see!   Thank you and cheers.       Annie. ???

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Brackloch in Sutherland
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 20 July 17 03:04 BST (UK) »
Hello again! You have answered it! I was having difficulty resizing the image on my iPad to send. Your email displayed in full. On reading your "irrelevant" notes on Assynt, the names match! The registrar's signature on the extract (6 Oct 1863)is Angus McEwen, so that fits. As well, the first word is definitely Kirkton, so perhaps little Thomas was taught by him, although by the time he was 7, they were living at Dalfaid.
Thank you again for your assistance - now we intend to spend time in Assynt  as well as Brackloch by the river Inver. There may be an old crofters  cottage!!!I know already we are going to run out of time!!
A piece of the jigsaw that fits.......thank you.

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Re: Help in locating church ( parish of Alness)
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 20 July 17 08:14 BST (UK) »
Glad to help .... bring on the next one!

This might be of interest http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C10625927
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