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Birth Certificate Query
« on: Sunday 27 March 16 14:38 BST (UK) »
I received a copy of a birth certificate from the GRO for a person I am researching.  In the first column "where and when born" it states 29th July 1941 but the 1941 is crossed out and replaced with 1937.  Also under "when registered" it says 19th May 1941 "on the authority to the Registrar General".  Can anyone explain this;  could the person have been adopted.

Many thanks for any help.

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Re: Birth Certificate Query
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 27 March 16 14:47 BST (UK) »
It could be an illegitimate birth, later legitimised by the parents marrying?
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Re: Birth Certificate Query
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 27 March 16 14:51 BST (UK) »
It could be an illegitimate birth, later legitimised by the parents marrying?
  That is pure speculation  without any evidence to back it up, surely?
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Re: Birth Certificate Query
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 27 March 16 14:55 BST (UK) »
I received a copy of a birth certificate from the GRO for a person I am researching.  In the first column "where and when born" it states 29th July 1941 but the 1941 is crossed out and replaced with 1937.  Also under "when registered" it says 19th May 1941 "on the authority to the Registrar General".  Can anyone explain this;  could the person have been adopted.

Many thanks for any help.
  Have you searched for the person on the 1939 national register.   Have you searched for the person subsequently getting married to see what their age has been recorded as?
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Re: Birth Certificate Query
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 27 March 16 14:57 BST (UK) »
7. After the expiration of twelve months next after the birth of any child, that birth shall not be registered except with the written authority of the Registrar General for registering the same, and except in accordance with the prescribed rules, and the fact of such authority having been given shall be entered in the register. http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1874/pdf/ukpga_18740088_en.pdf

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Re: Birth Certificate Query
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 27 March 16 15:21 BST (UK) »
It could be an illegitimate birth, later legitimised by the parents marrying?
  That is pure speculation  without any evidence to back it up, surely?

I was thinking an application to re-register a child's birth?
This was following The Legitimacy Act, 1926:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legitimacy_Act_1926
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Re: Birth Certificate Query
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 27 March 16 15:24 BST (UK) »
I hadnt got round to asking if there were in fact two Index entries for the Birth .....

Given the Act states:-

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In those circumstances, the legitimised birth was re-entered in the birth indexes for that year (sometimes many years after the original birth). The original entry would be annotated to refer to the new entry.

So, if theres not an Index entry in 1937, then this could well be simply that the child was never registered at birth, and someone in 1941 is sorting that ....

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Re: Birth Certificate Query
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 27 March 16 15:33 BST (UK) »
It is a could be late registration, and whoever made out the certificate wrote 1941 by mistake instead of 1937, and as I posted such a late registration required the written authority of the Registrar General.

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Re: Birth Certificate Query
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 27 March 16 15:45 BST (UK) »
It could be a late registration, but they are very rare - especially after a number of years.

It is far more likely to be a simple re-registration - either to add the details of an unmarried father or to legitimise the birth after the parents marriage. Looking at index entries for 1937 (under both the mother and father's names) and how the rest of the 1941 certificate is worded will make it clear what the actual scenario is in this case.

Re-Registrations also show as "on the authority of the Registrar General"

It isn't an adoption ( the word "adopted" would be added to the entry )