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Unmarried mothers Chester Le Street 1905-1925
« on: Tuesday 29 March 16 19:35 BST (UK) »
Hello
I am trying to unravel my family history and need some help understanding the information I have found so far. The family lived in the Chester Le Street area and were member of the mining community.
In the 1911 census should any women in the house report any children that she had or was it just the head of the household that reported their children.
Would an unmarried mother declare any children that she had?
If a grandfather declared a grand son on the census - would he have to explain where the mother was?
How could a colliery be provided as a 1911 census postal address?
In 1925 what were the implications for an unmarried mother age 15. 
Any advice welcome.
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Re: Unmarried mothers Chester Le Street 1905-1925
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 29 March 16 20:38 BST (UK) »
Hello & welcome.
Any children alive or dead will be listed against the wife's name providing they were his.
An illegitimate child of a daughter will be listed as Grandchild providing they were living/staying there on the night of the census.
No explanation needed to be given on the whereabouts of the mother as that would appear on the census of wherever she was ie. visitor, lodger, boarder.
The number of children listed in col. 6 - 9 were for married women only.
The Colliery address may indicate tied colliery cottages.
In 1925 there were implications for most unmarried mothers but it depends on what you mean by that.
A 15 yo might be sent to a mental institution as being wayward or she might be sent to live with a relative or the child might be brought up by the Grandparents & the mother would then effectively become an older sister or she might get thrown out & end up in the Workhouse.
The child might be taken from her as at 15 she wouldn't have had a say in it & then given up for adoption.
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Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
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Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
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Re: Unmarried mothers Chester Le Street 1905-1925
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 29 March 16 21:09 BST (UK) »
How could a colliery be provided as a 1911 census postal address?
Welcome to RootsChat.
This is quite common. If you go to the 1911 Census Summary Books and put just "Colliery" in the address and "Durham" in Location, you will get addresses such as 9 Croxdale Colliery, 61 Cassop Colliery, 1 Malton Colliery, 179 Tudhoe Colliery etc.

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Re: Unmarried mothers Chester Le Street 1905-1925
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 31 March 16 09:57 BST (UK) »
Hi I am researching the same family as djw134. Could you explain why a postal address read urpeth colliery, Birtley then something that looks like so or co?
i think Birtley was the name of an ironworks company working at urPerth colliery is that right? Also found a photo of Birtley institute what was that for?
Also what age could someone born in 1905 sign up for the army was it 1924? In the 1911 his address was above so would he be at a colliery school and would he also work at the mines once a certain age before signing up?
Lastly we know he was age 6 in 1911 living with his 55 year old grandad, 20 yr old aunt and 18 year old uncle who was a coal miner putter. But his parents were living first street pelton father also a miner. We have the birth certificate so know they are his parents. His mother has signed she has 3 children and 3 alive and it lists them as living there but why does she not say she has 4? Where he was listed as being at the colliery with his grandad etc he was down as being his grandson but the grandfather wrote the figure of all of his children even though they weren't living there? What benefit was there for one child aged 6 to be living elsewhere if the family were married and had been when he was born. Could they not have more than 3 children living with them in 1911? Or was it to do with schooling maybe?


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Re: Unmarried mothers Chester Le Street 1905-1925
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 31 March 16 11:48 BST (UK) »

i think Birtley was the name of an ironworks company working at urPerth colliery is that right? Also found a photo of Birtley institute what was that for?
The Birtley Iron Co. have very extensive works and coal pits here, affording employment to a large number of the population.
Birtley Literary Institute, founded 24th March, 1860, was rebuilt in 1900 at a cost of 1,800. It contains a billiard room (3 tables), games room, reading room, and a library  of 3,000 volumes.
Kelly's Directory of Durham, 1914
You can see Urpeth Colliery and the Institute on the map at http://maps.nls.uk/view/102341509#zoom=4&lat=7573&lon=14456&layers=BT
The address is Urpeth Colliery Birtley SO I can't find out what SO means.
You can see the town of Birtley on the map at http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/sidebyside.cfm#zoom=15&lat=54.8947&lon=-1.5769&layers=171&right=BingHyb
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Re: Unmarried mothers Chester Le Street 1905-1925
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 31 March 16 12:12 BST (UK) »
Lastly we know he was age 6 in 1911 living with his 55 year old grandad, 20 yr old aunt and 18 year old uncle who was a coal miner putter.

The census only shows where people were on one particular night. He might well have been living with his grandparents, but you shouldn't assume that this was the case. He could simply have been staying with them for that one night.

One of my aunts went to live with her grandparents in the mid-1920's. A couple of her siblings had been seriously ill and her mother was finding it difficult to cope. So my aunt went to her grandfathers for 'a few nights' and stayed for about 5 years  ::)
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Re: Unmarried mothers Chester Le Street 1905-1925
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 31 March 16 16:25 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much. I have found birtley south colliery on the map just below the clay pits. Is there anywhere you can find out where the miners were working or where children were schooled at different collieries? At what age were children likely to be at school then would they also likely become miners. We know he attained at the army in 1924. If his parents were in front street pelton that's a fair distance, how did they communicate?

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Re: Unmarried mothers Chester Le Street 1905-1925
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 31 March 16 16:58 BST (UK) »
At what age were children likely to be at school then would they also likely become miners. We know he attained at the army in 1924.

Under the 1870 Education Act Compulsory school attendance from 5-13 (with exceptions) was a matter for local option by School Boards and enforcement by bye-laws. An 1880 Act tightened the provisions of an 1876 Act, with compulsory attendance from 5-10 years. An 1893 Act raised the minimum leaving age to 11, and an 1899 Act raised the minimum leaving age to 12, Under the 1918 Act Full-time education was compulsory from 5 14 years.  More than likely the children of miners became miners.

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Re: Unmarried mothers Chester Le Street 1905-1925
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 31 March 16 17:04 BST (UK) »
If his parents were in front street pelton that's a fair distance, how did they communicate?

If you mean from Pelton to Birtley, it is under three miles, well within walking distance.
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