Author Topic: Marie Francesca Johanne Bartlett Philpott  (Read 930 times)

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Marie Francesca Johanne Bartlett Philpott
« on: Tuesday 29 March 16 20:32 BST (UK) »
Can anybody help please. After weeks of trying I have drawn a blank.
I am trying to trace the ancestors of my grandmother named above.
I know she came from Cuxhaven in Germany and she married William James Hemmings 1n 1900 at Aldershot. She was born in 1874 and died in Norwich in 1951. Her mother may have been Maria Bartlett and her father George Philpott.
That's all I have , I'm afraid.
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Re: Marie Francesca Johanne Bartlett Philpott
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 29 March 16 21:01 BST (UK) »
What did Marie's marriage record say about George's occupation (Aldershot = military?) and who were the witnesses, please?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Marie Francesca Johanne Bartlett Philpott
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 29 March 16 21:08 BST (UK) »
I now see that there was no information at all about the bride's father on the 1900 marriage (relevant spaces are left blank) and the witnesses were T.H. Thomas and C. Frost.

What is your source for George Philpott and Maria Bartlett as possible names for her parents?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Marie Francesca Johanne Bartlett Philpott
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 29 March 16 21:12 BST (UK) »
So is this family likely to be the one? From 1881, in Southampton

George Philpot    32 - b Hounsdown, Hampshire. General labourer
Marie Philpot    26 - b Germany (naturalised british subject)
Francisca Philpot    7 - b Cuxhaven  <<<
Georgine Philpot    5  - b Cuxhaven
Charles Philpot    4 - b Southampton
Arthur Philpot    3 - b Southampton
George Philpot      - b Southampton

RG11, 1214, 80, 38


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Re: Marie Francesca Johanne Bartlett Philpott
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 29 March 16 21:28 BST (UK) »
1891 they seem to be using Bartlett

George Bartlett    42
Maria Bartlett    36 - b Ettendorf
Charles Bartlett    14
Arthur Bartlett    13
Frank Bartlett    2
Alice Bartlett    7

RG12, 917, 68, 31

Georgina is a servant, b Hamburg,  not sure where her sister is

In 1901 they are Philpotts again - Frank and Alice are with married Georgina, Charles, Arthur and a 6 yr old Olive with George and Maria

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Re: Marie Francesca Johanne Bartlett Philpott
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 29 March 16 21:30 BST (UK) »
fuller details of marriage - she did not use Marie as her first name

entry 106
Holy Trinity Aldershot
Marriage by licence 2 Jan 1900
William Hemmings 26 bachelor Sergeant Norfolk regiment Stanhope Lin?s Aldershot father john Hemmings (deceased)
Johanne Marie Francesca Bartlett Philpot 25 spinster 21 Albert Rd Aldershot
witness T. H Thomas & C. Frost
all signed

will post her probate shortly as she is known by 2 names

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Marie Francesca Johanne Bartlett Philpott
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 29 March 16 21:36 BST (UK) »
probate
Johanne Marie Francesca Hemmings otherwise Marie Frances of 16 Glenburn Avenue Sprowston Norwich died 10 sept 1951 Administration Norwich 27 November to Stanley William Hemmings insurance official
Effects £2899 11s 5d
Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Marie Francesca Johanne Bartlett Philpott
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 29 March 16 21:52 BST (UK) »
The marriage was a bit of a rush - looks like William was shipped out to South Africa on 3 Jan 1900 i.e. the day after!

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Re: Marie Francesca Johanne Bartlett Philpott
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 29 March 16 22:03 BST (UK) »
Just to add to the confusion it looks a possibility that George's mother was named marie!!!!

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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