JamesSloan & Ann Henderson

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James & Margaret are the parents of Margaret Nicol (nee Sloan).She was born on March 11 1833 in Stair Ayrshire,Scotland, and died Sept 2 1915.
I am having great difficulty finding any details on either of her parents James & Ann. I think James may have been born around 1812, but can find nothing  about either of them.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
David

[[Ray]]

Hi

Are you querying
James & Margaret Sloan as per the first line of your post
OR
James & Ann Sloan as per the second time you mention parents on line 3?

Ray
 

[Kay99]

Was mother Margaret a typo?

Is this Margaret and parents in 1851 living in Glasgow??

James Sloan 48  Joiner b Stair, Ayrshire
Ann Sloan    47 b Stair
Margaret Sloan 18 b Stair
Ann Sloan    15 b Stair
John Sloan 11 b Stair
William A Sloan    8  b Glasgow

[isobelw]

The family appears to have moved to Glasgow before 1841 and can be found  on Freecen in both 1841 ( Grove Street)  and 1851 (Burnside Street) and on Ancestry in 1861 (Burnside Street). Nb Ann is described as Mrs James Sloan on some of the census returns.  Both James and Ann were born in Stair around 1803/1804 respectively. James appears to have died between 1861 and 1871 and Ann is living with her youngest son William A ( born 1843 in Glasgow) in 1871 at 117 New City Road, Blytheswood,Glasgow. William is a Teacher. In 1881 Ann is living with William A who is now living at Burnaw Cottage, South Knapdale, Argyll, an unemployed Teacher. In 1891 William A is lodging in Strathaven, Lanarkshire, described as a Dealer,Journalist,designer. No sign of his mother Ann. Assume she may have died but can't find an obvious death on Scotlandspeople.
Isobel

[AMBLY]

This looks like the family in 1851 & 1861:

CENSUS 1851 At: 45 Burnside Street, St George Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Ref: Parish 644/1, ED13, Page 19
(already posted)

CENSUS 1861 At: 26 Burnside Street, St George Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Ref: Parish 644/7, ED 51, Page 3
Head: James SLOAN 58, Joiner, b Stair, Ayr (abt 1803)
Wife: Mrs James 57, b Stair, Ayr (abt 1804)
Dau: Margaret SLOAN 28,  b Stair, Ayr (abt 1833)
Dau: Ann SLOAN 25, b Stair, Ayr (abt 1836)
Son: John SLOAN  21, Teacher Of Mathematical?, b Stair, Ayr (abt 1840)
Son: William W SLOAN 18, Student, b Glasgow (abt 1843)

BIRTHS to James SLOAN and Ann HENDERSON, from Family Search
Margaret SLOAN 1833
Ann SLOAN 1835
James SLOAN 1837
John SLOAN 1839

Provided they died in Scotland, the death certs of James SLOAN snr and wife Ann, should confirm they are the right people, and hopefully take you back a generation if their parents' names are on the death certs.

Cheers
AMBLY

[[Ray]]

[Good spot Kay]

Just in case related . . . . .
There is a John Sloan 35 Tea Dealer, born Scotland.
in S.Molton, Devon with a Margaret Sloan.
Others in household are 2x children surnamed Ireland.

1841 HO 107 / 235 / 7 / 15 / page24
East Street, S.Molton, Devon


 

[barrierexpress]

Many thanks to Ray,Kay99,isobelw and Ambly which has been a great help.The John Sloan in Devon is not connected.
I wonder if you could now help me find John Sloan`s parents.
I`m not sure if his father was John or James, but his wife`s maiden name must have been Bisset. Why you may ask?
Well ,Margaret-James and Ann`s daughter married John Nicol, and one of their daughters was named Margaret Bisset Nicol.
Thanks again,
David

[AMBLY]

Possible, that Ann SLOAN nee HENDERSON  went down to England with her married daughter Ann, and where her bachelor son John, a teacher, settled.

CENSUS 1901:  in Ealing, London
Address: Ealing Grammar School
Teacher John SLOAN, 61, Bachelor, Assistant Schoolmaster, b Ayr Soctland

CENSUS 1891, in Hackney, London:
Address: 69 The Paragon,
RG12 - Piece 195 / Folio 112 / Page 6
Head: James M FLEMING 53, Journalist & Author,
Wife: Annie S FLEMING 55,
Son: James S FLEMING 24, unm, Clerk (Engineering & Patent Agents)
Dau: Ann M FLEMING 22,
Son: William D FLEMING 20, Clerk (Mercantile)
Son: John A FLEMING 16?
Brother-in-Law: John SLOAN, 51, single, Teacher & Mathematical,
All Born Scotland

FAMILY SEARCH :  WITH PARENTS:  James FLEMING & Anne SLOAN:
BIRTH: Annie Murray FLEMING 1868, Blythswood, Glasgow
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQZ3-79J

BIRTH: William Daniel FLEMING 1870, Tradeston Glasgow
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQQX-T7Z

BIRTH : Margaret Elizabeth Henderson FLEMING, 1872, Tradeston Glasgow
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQ6Q-D6F

BIRTH: John Andrew FLEMING 1874, Milton, Glasgow
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VQQ6-K3F

The FLEMINGS are in South Hackney in 1881 - James & Ann and their 4 children:
Address:  29 Frampton Park Rd
RG11/ Piece 314/ Folio 60/ Pg 17

This may be the Death of mother Ann, nee HENDERSON:
DEATH 1886:
Anne SLOAN age 86
Registered Hackney , Dec Qtr 1886 - Vol 1b, page 359

This could be son John:
DEATH 1914:
John SLOAN age 74,
Registered Edmonton  Vol 3a , Page 489

Cheers
AMBLY

[AMBLY]

I wonder if you could now help me find John Sloan`s parents.

Do you mean James SLOAN,  ie: the husband of Ann HENDERSON, the father of Margaret NICOL nee SLOAN?

If so, possibly this is his death - from Scotlands People Index search

DEATH: James SLOAN age 62 years
Registered 1866, Blythswood, Lanarkshire

Cheers
AMBLY