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Finding my fathers biological family
« on: Monday 04 April 16 00:26 BST (UK) »
Hi,
I was wondering if I could get some advice on finding out who my biological grandparents are. My father was born in Italy but was put up for adoption in the UK and has lived here all his life. I no longer see or speak to my father and haven't for 7 years but I really want to know where I come from. All I have is his place of birth and his birth name, but I can't even find a birth certificate no matter which online site I go on. I wrote to the place where he was put up for adoption and they said they couldn't help as his biological mother may still be alive.

Is there any way I can get around this or is there no hope considering I have no consent from my father? It may seem weird but this is my family too and I feel a part of who I am is missing, I have nothing to do with my dad or his adopted parents so I can't even ask for information from them.

Please help, even if it's to tell me there is no point trying haha :)

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Re: Finding my fathers biological family
« Reply #1 on: Monday 04 April 16 06:06 BST (UK) »
Hi - and a warm welcome to Rootschat - unfortunately we are not allowed to post living peoples names - but if you make 2 more posts , members will then be able to send you a Personal Message and communicate that way ....you say he was adopted in the UK ..Presumably he was given an Anglicised name - do you know his original birth name given to him in Italy ??
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Re: Finding my fathers biological family
« Reply #2 on: Monday 04 April 16 07:01 BST (UK) »
It is unlikely that you will find a record of an Italian birth online if it is relatively recent - that is within the last 70 or so years.  Italian records are kept locally so you would need to contact the applicable comune for a copy of the certificate.  I would think though that they have restrictions, like all countries, on who can have access to the records of people who are potentially still living.

If he/his mother arrived in the UK prior to 1960, have you checked the shipping records?

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Re: Finding my fathers biological family
« Reply #3 on: Monday 04 April 16 08:20 BST (UK) »
Re shipping records, unfortunately I don't think many, if any, were kept for journeys from Europe to the UK.
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« Reply #4 on: Monday 04 April 16 08:46 BST (UK) »
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Re: Finding my fathers biological family
« Reply #5 on: Monday 04 April 16 10:00 BST (UK) »
There's a Rootschatter - steve62 - lives in Italy - and very good at helping with Italian Enquiries!

I will send him a private message alerting him to this post - he usually picks them up quite quickly.
If he hasn't by the time I get up in the morning -  I will PM him about this post!

Might be an idea to add "Italy" into your heading.
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Re: Finding my fathers biological family
« Reply #6 on: Monday 04 April 16 11:17 BST (UK) »
Quote from: livelaughlove on Monday 04 April 16 00:26 BST (UK)
Hi,
I was wondering if I could get some advice on finding out who my biological grandparents are. ........ ......... I wrote to the place where he was put up for adoption and they said they couldn't help as his biological mother may still be alive.

Did they mention anything about your Dad's biological father?  Or are you saying that you were informed that no information was recorded about your Dad's biological father? 

Is it possible that your Dad may have sought to find information out himself, or at least registered for contact if his biological parents were to seek to make contact?

If his birth mum was not married when your Dad was born, it is quite likely that the options available for her to raise her baby were very limited, or perhaps non existent.

Have you sought advice from your grandparents (the people who adopted your Dad). 

There are likely to be professional organisations that can help, rather than you tackle the search yourself.   

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Re: Finding my fathers biological family
« Reply #7 on: Monday 04 April 16 11:59 BST (UK) »
Do you know if his mother is British, maybe an au pair or on some kind of working holiday as there must have been a reason for her to come back here to get him adopted.

Would the birth have been registered at the British Embassy or Consulate if so?
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Re: Finding my fathers biological family
« Reply #8 on: Monday 04 April 16 12:15 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately for you, while your father is still alive, you won't be able to access his adoption files.

Even if he had passed away you wouldn't have an automatic right to see them either.

There's more information here

https://www.gov.uk/adoption-records/intermediary-agencies

You don't mention in your opening post when he was born?

Have you found out why he was born in Italy but adopted over here in the UK and not to an Italian family?
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