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Re: Henry Swinnerton Divorce.
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 12 April 16 08:33 BST (UK) »
From TROVE

Funeral Notice for Johanna MANNIX, wife of James MANNIX, (mother of Ellen Jane) died October 1900 at Bendigo.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/181023764
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/89431164

Account of her death
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/188644812
Inquest - there were 15 children apparently!
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/89431209

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Re: Henry Swinnerton Divorce.
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 12 April 16 08:38 BST (UK) »
A death registered to two surnames for consideration.
A few inconsistencies with the birth information

BELL  Ethel Francis
Father Yeoman William
Mother Emily  HALL
Death Place WHIT
Age 64
Year 1968
Reg  10115
 

REID Ethel Francis
Father Yeoman William
Mother Emily  HALL
Death Place WHIT
Age 64
Year 1968
Reg 10115

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Re: Henry Swinnerton Divorce.
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 12 April 16 08:58 BST (UK) »
There is an indexed marriage for Frances Ethel Gladys SWINNERTON in 1934 in Victoria.

It confirms the above listed death as correct.

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Re: Henry Swinnerton Divorce.
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 12 April 16 20:08 BST (UK) »
Yes it was the Bell marriage which is correct. Apparently Frances married another two times.

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Re: Henry Swinnerton Divorce.
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 12 April 16 20:13 BST (UK) »
Henry Swinnerton born 1861 Crowlands Frances first husband.
Now looks like he was the son of William Swinnerton and Eliza McQuade.
I need to prove that this was right.

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Re: Henry Swinnerton Divorce.
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 12 April 16 23:55 BST (UK) »
This one, who was 44 years her senior.?

Birth
SWINNERTON Henry
Father William
Mother Eliza MCQUADE
Birth Place CROWLANDS
Year 1861
Reg  15190

Death
Henry SWINNERTON
Year 1931
Father William
Mother Eliza
Granville, New South Wales
Reg 11268
Registration Number:   15190

What is the source of this information please swinno?
The divorce was in 1934 and this chap was already dead then ::)

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Re: Henry Swinnerton Divorce.
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 13 April 16 04:00 BST (UK) »
I think it's one of those families who re-used forenames across generations and for cousins etc.

This is how I see it:

Henry SWINNERTON

b1899 Heathcote,
m Frances Yeoman 1924,
divorced 1934

Henry's parents:
William SWINNERTON,

b 1854 Ballarat East,
m 1892 NSW
d 1939 Bendigo
Ellen J MANNIX,


William's parents (Henry's grandparents) -this information comes from the birth index entry for William b 1854)
William SWINNERTON
Eliza MCQUADE


William and Eliza were the parents of the  Henry SWINNERTON, b 1861, registered at Crowlands.  Thus the Henry registered at Crowlands in 1861 would be an uncle of the Henry reigistered at Heathcote 1899 with parents William and and Ellen and who married Frances in 1924.

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Re: Henry Swinnerton Divorce.
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 13 April 16 17:13 BST (UK) »
Once again I applaud the researches on this site for the information they find.

Now having added the relevant info to a Swinnerton Tree I see that The  Henry
Swinnerton who I first inquired about born 1899 in Heathcote. Was in fact the son of
William and Ellen Jane Mannix. And the grandson of  William and Eliza Mcquade.
Of course this all requires verifying with certs.

Another thing that eludes me is what happened to Henry born 1899. We know now that he was divorced from Frances for desertion. WHERE did he dissapper to?

Thanks everyone for your help.

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Re: Henry Swinnerton Divorce.
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 13 April 16 23:30 BST (UK) »


Another thing that eludes me is what happened to Henry born 1899. We know now that he was divorced from Frances for desertion. WHERE did he dissapper to?

Thanks everyone for your help.


This is the death of a child of the couple-

SWINNERTON Royston Jos
Father SWINNERTON Hy Jno
Mother Frances Gladys Ethel  YEOMAN
Death Place BENDIGO
Age 1 year
Year 1928
Reg   8750

We may assume from this that the couple were together to 1927ish and possibly living at Bendigo, though there is no electoral roll listing for either of them.

It is possible that Henry deserted the family, began to use a different name and the divorce may even have been granted in his absence.  The newspaper item does not say.

It will be a big challenge to locate him, I think. :o

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