Anne CUMBERLAND

[Ruskie]

Might you have picked up those names from someone else's tree, hence the question marks? 

[fred2derf]

Probably a tree that is no loner on-line as I could not find it again.

This will have to wait until Walden St. Paul's can be checked for that 1831 marriage and for possible baptism. The OPR or perhaps later an OPC.

TWINE family is easy to research.

Fred

[LizzieL]

The marriage record is on FindMyPast. Job Twine was a widower of the parish of Newnham in the county of Gloucester (agent), Anne Cumberland was otp and spinster. Marriage 18 Aug 1831 at St Pauls Walden Bury by licence. Witnesses William Cumberland, Jemima (?) Cumberland and C H Pilgrim. Mr Pilgrim witnesses a lot of marriages so likely to be a parish official. Later record gives his forenames as Charles Hullett.
Both Anne and Job signed as did all the witnesses.


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on 1841 census there is a Jemima Cumberland age 55 farmer at bottom of page before the page with Job and Anne. Anne is recorded as 30 in 1841, so Jemima could be mother or aunt. Although relationships not given, the children after Jemima (inc a jemima age 15) could be her daughters.

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Jemima Cumberland born 4 Jul 1823 bapt 10 Aug 1823 Gt gaddesdon, d/o William Cumberland (farmer) and Jemima.

Index to death duty registers
William Cumberland Hoo End farm, executor Jemima Cumberland Paul's Walden death year 1842. So William should be on 1841 census at a different address

[LizzieL]

Looks like his first marriage was to Elizabeth Fletcher (sp, otp) on 14 April 1824 in Great Gaddesdon, also by licence. Witnesses John Cumberland and Sophia Cumberland and James Fletcher. Record says with consent of guardians (?). Fletchers and Cumberlands might be related.

[LizzieL]

Looking at freebmd it looks like William died Q2 1841 (so probably not on 1841 census, which was taken on 1st june), possibly what is given as death year was actually when probate was granted. Looks like Jemima's death in 1845

[LizzieL]

On 1841 census, Anne (Cumberland) Twine was not born in county (Herts), neither was Jemima snr or Robert Cumberland who seems to be part of the same household. On the 1851 census this Robert's pob is given as Houghton Rye, Beds. can't find this place, but it could be Houghton Regis, just north of Dunstable.

William Cumberland married Jemima Fletcher 4 Nov 1819 Toddington Beds. This gives a link between Fletchers and Cumberlands, but is too late for Jemima to be Anne's mother. But could be William's second marriage?? and both Robert and Anne are children from first marriage possibly??

[LizzieL]

Freereg has bapt of Robert Cumberland in Houghton regis 31 jul 1808 s/o William and Ann.

also Ann Cumberland bapt 24 Jun 1810 at Houghton Regis d/o Thomas and Hannah.
Thomas Cumberland married Hannah Jones in HR in 1805.
There is a baptism for a William Cumberland s/o Thomas and Hannah on 25 dec 1807, notes say he was aged 13 m. Sarah Cumberland was bapt on the same day as Ann in 1810, parents William and Susannah. A William Cumberland married Susannah Howes on 14 Feb 1809.


Thomas and William could be brothers. Two possible pairs
There's a Thomas bapt in HR in 1780 s/o Thomas and Susan Cumberland and a Thomas bapt in HR in 1781 s/o William and Ann.
There's a William bapt 1775 s/o William and Ann and a William bapt 1788 s/o Thomas and Susan.

Given the household in 1841, I think Thomas and William are more likely sons of william and Ann., because Robert is living with extended family.

There is also a Sophia Cumberland d/o William and Ann bapt in HR 1803, poss witness on Joseph Twine's first marriage??

[LizzieL]

Just found what looks like Thomas and hannah Cumberland in 1851 in Houghton Regis
They have living with them daughter Ann b abt 1810 married to James Duchess, so it looks as if the Anne married to Job Twine is not the daughter of Thomas and Hannah

Piece number 1757 Folio 31 Page 1

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And William (b abt 1788) and Susannah are still in Houghton Regis in 1851, so not the same William who married Jemima in 1819. 

[LizzieL]

Just had a look at Toddington records. there is a child baptised to James and Jemima Fletcher -
James April 28 1807, then burial of James Fletcher (farmer) on 23 Nov 1811 - so burial of an adult not the child James. Possibly Jemima was a widow when she married William Cumberland. Perhaps a request if anyone has post 1812 Toddington marriage records on the Bedfordshire board would solve that one.