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Ancestry of Elizabeth Williams nee Kerridge, my Grandmother
« on: Monday 25 April 16 12:59 BST (UK) »
Can somebody please advise me? 

I am retired and a Pensioner, in recent times I have been researching the Family History of my Mother and Father.

I have been quite successful with regard to my Mother's Father: Laurence Joseph Williams, I have received superb assistance from the 'Manchester Regiment Group Forum'. 

He was born on 4th November 1875 in Tullamore, Kings Co, Ireland.
He married; Elizabeth Kerridge on 30th November 1896 at St George's Church, Charlestown, Salford. 
He volunteered for the Rifle Brigade, British Army in 1914 and was discharged as 'medically unfit. 
In 1915 at the age of 40yrs he again joined the Army and eventually served with X Platoon, C Company, 18th Battalion, Manchester Regiment.  He lied about his age on both enlistments.

I have copies of all of his 'Attestation Papers', where he trained and served, when he arrived in France up until the day he was killed in action: 9th July 1916 at Trones Wood, The Somme. and where he is remembered at the Thiepval Memorial.

With regard to his wife; Elizabeth (My Grandmother) I have reached a point where I am not sure how to proceed.
Elizabeth Williams nee Kerridge was born in Salford either in 1875 or 1877,

Her parents were; John Kerridge and Elisabeth Kerridge nee Haughton.  The Banns for her marriage list John Kerridge as her Father, I believe he was a widower at this time.  Her age in 1896 is shown as 19yrs, which would point to her birth year as 1877. 

However when I have looked at other records, they display that:
Elizabeth Kerridge was Christened on 12 May 1875 at the Chapelry-of-Christ, Salford.  Father: John Kerridge, Mother;Elizabeth.
OR
Elisabeth Kerridge was Christened on 05 Sep 1877 at the Chapelry-of-Christ, Salford.  Father: John Kerridge, Mother;Elizabeth.

I was born in 1946 at Robertsbridge, Sussex.  My Mother: Lillian Josephine Willard nee Williams was born 22nd October 1911 in Salford.  She was one of at least 8 children born to Elizabeth and Laurence Williams.

I met in c.1952 my Grandmother; Elizabeth Williams, she died in 1954, Salford.

Can somebody please help me to establish when my Grandmother was born, when she died and where she is buried.  I would appreciate help on this.

Thank you

Roy Willard
Rye
East Sussex

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Re: Ancestry of Elizabeth Williams nee Kerridge, my Grandmother
« Reply #1 on: Monday 25 April 16 13:08 BST (UK) »
From freebmd - http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

There is only one Elizabeth Kerridge b Salford between the years 1874 and 1878

June Quarter 1875, district Salford, vol 8d, page 130

Could be her.   The censuses should have her with her parents. 
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Re: Ancestry of Elizabeth Williams nee Kerridge, my Grandmother
« Reply #2 on: Monday 25 April 16 13:12 BST (UK) »
However, there is a death?

Deaths, June qtr 1877
Salford Registration District     vol 8d, page 77

Kerridge, Elizabeth     age 2
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)


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Re: Ancestry of Elizabeth Williams nee Kerridge, my Grandmother
« Reply #3 on: Monday 25 April 16 13:15 BST (UK) »
There is a death reg FreeBMD
Elizabeth Williams Jun qtr 1954
Salford
10f 427

but her age at death is given as 93????

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Re: Ancestry of Elizabeth Williams nee Kerridge, my Grandmother
« Reply #4 on: Monday 25 April 16 13:18 BST (UK) »
1881 census
Class: RG11; Piece: 3970; Folio: 58; Page: 34
12 West Peel Street, Salford

Kerridge, John  Head  Widower  M  44  Wheelwright  b Ormskirk, Lancashire
Kerridge, William  Son  M  17  Railway Servant  b Blackburn
Kerridge, James  Son  M  15  Railway Servant  b Blackburn
Kerridge, Mary A  Daughter  F  13  b Salford
Kerridge, Elizabeth  Daughter  F  3  b Salford
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Ancestry of Elizabeth Williams nee Kerridge, my Grandmother
« Reply #5 on: Monday 25 April 16 13:33 BST (UK) »
This appears to be Elizabeth Kerridge's death

KERRIDGE    Elizabeth   
age  40
Salford   
volume 8d   
page 84    

I think the most likely explanation is that the first daughter Elizabeth died and then your grandmother was born and called Elizabeth.

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Re: Ancestry of Elizabeth Williams nee Kerridge, my Grandmother
« Reply #6 on: Monday 25 April 16 13:39 BST (UK) »
That would be the mother?!
March qtr 1881
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Ancestry of Elizabeth Williams nee Kerridge, my Grandmother
« Reply #7 on: Monday 25 April 16 13:40 BST (UK) »
William's birth is shown on www.lancashirebmd.org.uk with a mother's maiden name as Houghton. There is a marriage at Manchester Cathedral of a John Kerridge to an Elizabeth Haughton on 15 July 1859 which I think is probably the right couple. You can see the image on Ancestry.

And yes the Elizabeth Kerridge death I found would be John's wife, your great grandmother.

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Re: Ancestry of Elizabeth Williams nee Kerridge, my Grandmother
« Reply #8 on: Monday 25 April 16 13:46 BST (UK) »
From lancashireOPC
Baptism 4 Dec 1872 Christ Church, Salford, Lancashire
Samuel Kerridge - parents John Kerridge & Elisabeth
Born 10 Nov 1872
Abode 9 Barlows Buildings
Occupation Wheelwright
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Baptism 12 May 1875 Christ Church, Salford, Lancashire
Elizabeth Kerridge - Parents John Kerridge & Elizabeth
Born 2 Apr 1875
Abode 9 Barlow's Buildings No.3, Liverpool St.
Occupation Wheelwright

Baptism 5 Sep 1877 Christ Church, Salford, Lancashire
Elisabeth Kerridge - Parents John Kerridge & Elisabeth
Born 21 Aug 1877
Abode 20 Cranbourne St.
Occupation Wheelwright
 
Baptism 5 Nov 1879 Christ Church, Salford, Lancashire
Joseph Kerridge - Parents John Kerridge & Elisabeth
Born 5 Sep 1879
 Abode 96 Liverpool St.
Occupation Wheelwright
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