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albert victor doake payne or pain
« on: Friday 29 April 16 19:13 BST (UK) »
he was married in 1890 in Dublin to Kathleen Agnes Dunne,I got his marriage certificate but cant find his birth certificate,i think his father was Albert Pain who married Dinah Keal or Real in Cork in 1867,not sure if he came from Dorset in England.Think they were a protestant family, also cant find death certificate.Is anyone able to find a birth or baptism certificate please.

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Re: albert victor doake payne or pain
« Reply #1 on: Friday 29 April 16 19:44 BST (UK) »
Would this be the baptism for their son  Catholic Parish Records
Albert James Payne birth date 26 January 1890 baptism 30 May 1890
St Andrews Dublin City Ireland
Father Albert Payne Mother Kate Dunne address 33,Queens Square
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Re: albert victor doake payne or pain
« Reply #2 on: Friday 29 April 16 20:39 BST (UK) »
Was wondering if this is the correct parents for Albert Victor Doake Payne   Albert and Dinah seem to be in the 1881 cenus onwards but no Albert V D Payne with them
Who were the witnesses on the marriage
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Re: albert victor doake payne or pain
« Reply #3 on: Friday 29 April 16 23:12 BST (UK) »
It doesn't look to be the right family - unless that Albert was married previously   :-\

1901 census shows the younger Albert to be born in Dublin whilst the children in 1881 are born in Cork.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Merchants_Quay/Cork_Street/1298313/

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKXW-8JX3

What is Albert's father's occupation on the marriage certificate?
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Re: albert victor doake payne or pain
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 30 April 16 19:23 BST (UK) »
Thank's for replying to my email regarding Albert Victor Doake,Payne,he was born in Dublin in 1867 and married in Dublin register office in 1890,the certificate say's his father Albert Payne was deceased,he was a farmer and the two witness's were D.Dunne and Mary Dunne.My Grandfather was Albert James Dunne and he was born in 1867 in Dublin.I think I thought the Albert Pain in Dorset might have been Albert Doake father because he was married in Ireland in 1867.Thank's again.         

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Re: albert victor doake payne or pain
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 30 April 16 19:28 BST (UK) »
Sorry,just sent reply with wrong date my grandad was born should have been 1890 not 1867,that is Albert James Payne.

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Re: albert victor doake payne or pain
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 01 May 16 04:00 BST (UK) »
Sorry,just sent reply with wrong date my grandad was born should have been 1890 not 1867,that is Albert James Payne.

Yes thought you had the wrong date for Albert James Payne .and the wrong connection with the other chap from Dorset
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Re: albert victor doake payne or pain
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 01 May 16 09:23 BST (UK) »
Albert Payne, age 20, born Dublin in 1911 census is a painter-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Wood_Quay__part_of_/Patrick_Street__South_Side/81993

His father was a painter in 1901 (link also posted earlier)-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Merchants_Quay/Cork_Street/1298313

May be a total co-incidence but there was a William Payne living at 28 Queens Square in 1902 (Albert living at #33 in 1890)
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/555ad00273504
William & family in 1911-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/South_Dock/Grattan_Terrace/82858
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Re: albert victor doake payne or pain
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 01 May 16 09:40 BST (UK) »
There's a widow Kate Payne in Dublin in 1911 born Cork working as a servant-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Fitzwilliam/Harcourt_Street/73472
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