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Lilly Wheeler
« on: Friday 27 May 16 15:01 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I am trying to find information about Lilly Wheeler born circa 1870 and died in 1964 in Londonderry, Ireland. I have her marrying Andrew Spence in Blackheath in 1897 where she lists her father as John Wheeler, deceased. She moved to Ireland after marrying Andrew and I have seen the 1901 and 1911 Irish censuses. I am unable to find her on any census' or records prior to 1901. I'd greatly appreciate help!

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Re: Lilly Wheeler
« Reply #1 on: Friday 27 May 16 15:06 BST (UK) »
Hi

Have you got a birthplace for her from the census or doesn't it show?
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Lilly Wheeler
« Reply #2 on: Friday 27 May 16 15:15 BST (UK) »
She is on a family tree as being born abt 1870 Kent. 

Residence in 1891 down as St Paul Deptford London.
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Lilly Wheeler
« Reply #3 on: Friday 27 May 16 15:29 BST (UK) »
Thankyou,

I can't remember which document I saw that had birthplace as Deptford, Kent 1870. Possibly the 1911 census but there is a problem with the site and it won't let me access it.

Who does it say she is living with in the 1891 census please?

One of her daughter is 'Kathleen Lillian' so perhaps she is officially a Lillian?

Thanks for your assistance


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Re: Lilly Wheeler
« Reply #4 on: Friday 27 May 16 15:48 BST (UK) »
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Lilly Wheeler
« Reply #5 on: Friday 27 May 16 15:55 BST (UK) »
An online tree gives her born June 1878 Deptford, Kent and parents John Wheeler & Charlotte Wheeler
1881 census- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK6B-CCXY
1891 census- https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q84G-SMM

Probate of the Will of Andrew Spence late of 2 Bayview Terrace Londonderry Railway Manager who died 24 June 1914 granted at Londonderry to Henry S. Thompson Hardware Merchant. Effects £1,246 3s. 2d.
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Re: Lilly Wheeler
« Reply #6 on: Friday 27 May 16 16:00 BST (UK) »
Thankyou,

I'd really like to think that the Kent census' are her but the birthdate is wrong by 7 years on both census'. I know that sometimes ages were rounded up and down but was it by that much?

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Re: Lilly Wheeler
« Reply #7 on: Friday 27 May 16 16:11 BST (UK) »
Ages can vary wildly but I can't really confirm that the English records are her (people with online trees, especially Ancestry ones, are prone to attaching the wrong records to a person).

Exactly where did the marriage take place? what date? father's occupation?
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Re: Lilly Wheeler
« Reply #8 on: Friday 27 May 16 16:16 BST (UK) »
Hi,

They were married at St John the Evangelist Church in Blackheath on 29th September 1897. Her father is listed as John Spence (deceased). There is a family rumour that John was a chemist but there is no proof of this.

Thanks again