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Francis Henry Asbury, heating engineer, before 1880 and after 1892
« on: Tuesday 31 May 16 22:10 BST (UK) »
I've been researching the inventors who spent most on patents in NZ between 1860 and 1899 for an economics thesis. The background and fate of Francis Henry Asbuy remains unclear. Between 1880 and 1890 he was in Dunedin, Otago, NZ, where he worked as a heating engineer, and got married to Margaret Sheedy in 1884. His marriage certificate says he was born in Scotland about 1847 and his parents were Henry Asbury and Marie Coralie. However, this matches poorly with census and birth records for the UK. In 1890-1892 he was in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, but after 1892 the only detailed information I can find is the death certificate for his widow in Johannesburg, South Africa in 1935. She had a daughter called Iris or Doris Marguerite, whose surname is unclear. The daughter does not show up on NZ or Australian BDM records, even changing the spelling of Asbury's surname! An F.H. Asbury also shows up as travelling between Melbourne and Europe via Sth Africa in the late 1890s. I'd be interested if anyone knew about Asbury's career and fortunes after 1892, or had any information on his early life. There is evidence of a Frank Henry Asbury in San Francisco in 1875 who reported being born in Scotland, and the NZ Asbury advertised he had worked in the US. 

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Re: Francis Henry Asbury, heating engineer, before 1880 and after 1892
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 31 May 16 22:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Matthew

If you check familysearch.org there are quite a few records for a man by the name you want, born Scotland.

Look at this though,  a passport application , this may be him plus a photo ( three pages on after the first page detailing his history)

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L965-NW6C?i=717&wc=3XZM-JWL%3A1056306501%2C1056489001%3Fcc%3D2185145&cc=2185145

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Re: Francis Henry Asbury, heating engineer, before 1880 and after 1892
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 31 May 16 22:54 BST (UK) »
This ties in nicely with fathers birthplace of Shropshire, Francis is with his uncle in 1851 census

Staffordshire, West Bromwich : Eagle Row

John Asbury head mar. 33  pudler   bn WELLINGTON SHROPSHIRE
Ann              wife          33                 " Bilston Staffordshire
Frances       dau           13  scholar    "    "                "
FRANCIS    nephew      9        "         " SCOTLAND

Class: HO107; Piece: 2026; Folio: 144; Page: 24

EDIT: From the passport application, Francis's father died c1847

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Luce, Tippett , Thomson, Dolling ~ Devon & Cornwall
Mocquard ~ London, France
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Re: Francis Henry Asbury, heating engineer, before 1880 and after 1892
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 31 May 16 23:06 BST (UK) »
Think this is him in 1861, still with his uncle, but is now called 'son'

Staffordshire West Bromwich: 42 Castle Street

John USBURY  head mar 44   iron plater bn. Shropshire Wellington
Ann M    "        wife      "   43                      " Staffordshire Bilston
FRANCIS         SON          19  iron plater  " SCOTLAND GLASGOW

Class: RG 9; Piece: 2029; Folio: 39; Page: 21;

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Re: Francis Henry Asbury, heating engineer, before 1880 and after 1892
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 01 June 16 00:19 BST (UK) »
This could be Francis's fathers birth

Henry ASTBURY  bpt. 2 December 1792 WELLINGTON, SHROPSHIRE. Parents: Francis and Mary Astbury.

Then I can see this marriage:

Henry ASBURY married MANEY PROBERT 26 Dec 1838, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland.
Grooms father: Francis Asbury
Brides father: Daniel CORBET

Without the marriage cert. I don't know if Probert is a mistranscription of Corbet, or vice versa, or bride was a widow when marrying,  MANEY's name on the marriage registration is also down as 'Nancy Probert', I've seen the actual image and it does look like Maney rather than Nancy.

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Re: Francis Henry Asbury, heating engineer, before 1880 and after 1892
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 01 June 16 00:32 BST (UK) »
And an interesting 1841 census entry in Scotland

Barony Martyrs ( Glasgow): Glebe Street Kenmure Place.

Henry ASHBERRY  25 English Forge. Born: England
Many         "         30                         " Lanarkshire
Margreat    "         10                         "        "
Richard      "          5                          "        "
FRANCIS    "         1month                  "        "

Parish: Barony Martyrs; ED: 21; Page: 6; Line: 1440; Year: 1841

I think Maney/Many possibly was married twice, and Henry's age is way out too, but I wonder if this is the correct family.

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Re: Francis Henry Asbury, heating engineer, before 1880 and after 1892
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 01 June 16 01:11 BST (UK) »
Familysearch has:

Richard Probert married Marrie Colbert 15 April 1828 Muirkirk, Ayr.

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Re: Francis Henry Asbury, heating engineer, before 1880 and after 1892
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 01 June 16 01:12 BST (UK) »

That's a good find  ;D

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Re: Francis Henry Asbury, heating engineer, before 1880 and after 1892
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 01 June 16 03:56 BST (UK) »
Military record details, 1917, for Francis H ASBURY aged 74, engineer, born Scotland.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GPD7-94TH?i=600&wc=M6N8-32Q%3A203118801%2C203212701%3Fcc%3D1916230&cc=1916230

Now that I look at this again - it is a note of his service during the civil war, and of his stay at a soldiers' home in 1917
Farrell  - Ayrshire
Cairns - Ayrshire
McCann - Ayrshire
Brown - Ayrshire
Petty - Yorkshire, Durham
Lucas - Staffordshire, Durham
Whitaker - Yorkshire
Thackrah - Yorkshire
Stephenson - Durham
Marshall - Yorkshire
Walker - Staffordshire, Southland New Zealand
McCullough -  Antrim, Southland New Zealand,
Cavanagh - Galway, Southland New Zealand
Anthony - Tipperary, Southland New Zealand
Bath - Cornwall, Tasmania, Southland
Brungot - Alesund, Norway; Southland
Bonthron - Fifeshire, Southland