Author Topic: Looking for Alexander Nicol of Oamaru and Ngapara, North Otago, New Zealand  (Read 6142 times)

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Having trouble tracing the parentage and date of death for this chap, who on 19 August 1880 married Jane (Jeannie) Finnie, daughter of Thomas & Mary Finnie of "Lisburn", Saddle Hill, East Taieri, Otago, NZ. Their marriage cert unfortunately gives none of the usual helpful details of parents and their place of origin, though Scotland would be a likely guess. His daughter Vera's birth cert gives his birthplace as Canada and as the wedding cert gives his age as 23 at the time of his marriage I can tell his date of birth must have been ca. 1857.

Alexander is first described as a flour miller at Timaru, Oamaru and later as a carpenter at Ngapara. Was he the "A. Nicol" who started a flour mill at Duntroon in 1896, but had difficulties and ended up selling to Milligans? Could he have been a relative of Robert Nicol, who operated a flour mill at Waimate? I can't find a family connection which jumps out at me. Another faint possibility is a link with Captain John Nicol, who captained the ship "Gil Blas" which brought Thomas & Mary Finnie to Dunedin in 1858.

Alexander & Jane Nicol left Ngapara in 1920 after 20 years in residence there and moved to Geraldine. Jane may have been living with her daughter Vera McFadgen (nee Nicol) at the time of her death on 20 September 1948 as her son-in-law, Presbyterian minister Jim McFadgen, paid for her burial plot at Gore Cemetery. This suggests she was a widow. Of Alexander's death & burial, though, I can find no trace. If I could work this out, his death cert might give me the missing details of his family.

Any help much appreciated.

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Re: Looking for Alexander Nicol of Oamaru and Ngapara, North Otago, New Zealand
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 11 June 16 06:50 BST (UK) »
There is an obit for Alexander NICOL in the Auckland Star 18 September 1941. In his 85th year, from Stratford Canada, arrived NZ aged 15 and worked in flour milling, then building. Survived by wife and 4 children.

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=AS19410918.2.111&srpos=247&e=-------100--201-byDA---2alexander+nicol--


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Re: Looking for Alexander Nicol of Oamaru and Ngapara, North Otago, New Zealand
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 11 June 16 06:56 BST (UK) »
This would be his death from NZ BDM: 16.9.1941: 1941/22536 Alexander Nicol, 83yrs

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Re: Looking for Alexander Nicol of Oamaru and Ngapara, North Otago, New Zealand
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 11 June 16 07:06 BST (UK) »
A bit slow  ;D

Debra  :)


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Re: Looking for Alexander Nicol of Oamaru and Ngapara, North Otago, New Zealand
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 June 16 07:37 BST (UK) »
This sounds very promising, thanks - I hadn't thought of Auckland, but his son Frank was living in Howick, so maybe Alexander and Jane followed him there in their later years. Certainly sounds like the right Alexander, specially with the Canadian connection, plus I know the family were staunch Presbyterians. Jane must have gone back down to live with her daughter after being widowed.

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Re: Looking for Alexander Nicol of Oamaru and Ngapara, North Otago, New Zealand
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 11 June 16 07:39 BST (UK) »
You guys are amazing - many thanks. Hope the death cert is a bit more forthcoming :)

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Re: Looking for Alexander Nicol of Oamaru and Ngapara, North Otago, New Zealand
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 11 June 16 08:36 BST (UK) »
Added bonus -  from the obit I have discovered thet Alexander & Jane had 3 sons, not just one as I'd thought. A trap for players - on BDM daughter Vera & son Frank are recorded with their mother's name as Jeanie, while for the other two her name is given as Jane (Scots tended to treat Jane & Jean as the same name.)

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Re: Looking for Alexander Nicol of Oamaru and Ngapara, North Otago, New Zealand
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 11 June 16 08:38 BST (UK) »
Yes, hopefully will have some more info for you. I tried looking up Canadian births around 1858, but didn't come up with anything promising. You could possibly look for immigration records around 1873 too.  ;) If he arrived aged 15, I would imagine it's unlikely he came to NZ alone, although ... anything's possible.

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Re: Looking for Alexander Nicol of Oamaru and Ngapara, North Otago, New Zealand
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 11 June 16 08:39 BST (UK) »
Added bonus -  from the obit I have discovered thet Alexander & Jane had 3 sons, not just one as I'd thought. A trap for players - on BDM daughter Vera & son Frank are recorded with their mother's name as Jeanie, while for the other two her name is given as Jane (Scots tended to treat Jane & Jean as the same name.)

Yes, if you look at NZ BDM, I think there are 5 possible births for Jane/Jeanie/Janie and Alexander.