HELP PLEASE? Need to find Alice Schofield ASAP?

[Ladyhawk]

I have marriage certificate for Alice Lane and John w. Schofield for 1919 which states her father to be Thomas Palfreman Lane.

I am wondering now if her Mother was Briggs and what happened re a marriage for them?

E.. b.1924 born Leeds mms Briggs (auntie)

I'm still inclined to think the family below are Alice's - Speculation & I maybe totally wrong but
Alice named one of  her daughters E.. possibly after her sister E.. Mary 

and Annette posted Florrie Schofield - mmn  Lane Sept.1925 Leeds - died Sept.1925 Leeds
Alice Briggs also had a sister named Florence

I wonder if this is the family

Thomas Palfreman BRIGGS
1856 Oct-Nov-Dec York Volume:   9d Page:   32

Thomas Palfreeman BRIGGS
1878 Oct-Nov-Dec Lichfield Volume:   6b Page:   635
Female name on page
Eliza FISHER

1881 RG11; Piece: 4692; Folio: 20; Page: 34
Thos P BRIGGS & Eliza, mother in law Mary A Fisher

1891 RG12; Piece: 2679; Folio: 58; Page: 10
29 Annes(b)y Terrace Colwick Nottinghamshire
Thomas P BRIGGS 34 York Railway engine driver
Eliza 32
Florence 8
ALICE 5 Colwick Notts
Tom 3
Harry 1

Alice BRIGGS 1886 Jan-Feb-Mar Basford Volume:   7b Page:   258

1901 RG13; Piece: 3355; Folio: 58; Page: 47
37 Ernest Street Cheshire
Thomas & Eliza have more children Charlie BRIGGS 8, Miriam 5, Eva M 3

Edited

Dau Miriam Briggs marries St Jude Preston Lancashire 2 Sep 1918 to Edward Thomas Parry
Her father named as Thomas Phalphreyman Briggs deceased Engine Driver, One witness E M Briggs

What does anyone else think?

Finding Alice Brigg's first marriage to ? Lane may unravel the mystery of her father's name
was it Thomas Palfreyman Lane or Briggs 

Or

perhaps ordering one of the birth certificates for Lane/Briggs to see if mother is Alice Lane formely Briggs and confirming the first name their father and that hopefully might help pinpoint her marriage

[Calverley Lad]

Personal details for Florrie Schofield:
Cemetery   Harehills Cemetery
Burial Entry   9890
Forename(s)   Florrie
Surname   SCHOFIELD
Abode   
Description   
Burial (Day)   17
Burial (Month)   August
Burial (Year)   1925
Age (Years)   
Age (Months)   
Age (Other)   4 days
Year of Birth   1925
Grave Type   Consecrated
Grave Section   D1
Grave Number   275
Grave Type   Consecrated
Together with 11 others!
NB No parents name listed/address.
 Brian

[Ladyhawk]

Since you believe she'd had previous children IF the 1914 at Elham marriage was correct,

Gladys R. Lane mmn Briggs birth June.qtr.1916 Oxford (i.e. still down South)

It looks to me like Gladys R. Lane married in Leeds in 1937 to a Rowland Lucas.   

Deaths index show a

Gladys Rees Lucas born 22/3/1916 died. Jan.1992 Northumberland
(he died in Leeds 1980).   

There is only the one Gladys R. Lane born in 1916 Oxford.

Good spot Annette re: death entry for Gladys showing her middle name Rees

1905 Nantwich death of Thomas P BRIGGS age 48

Eliza Briggs remarried 1906 Aston John Richard Rees

Just realised that Eliza's 2nd husband was surname Rees - and this is the second name of Alice Brigg's possible daughter Gladys!!

You could be onto something there - her birth certificate would confirm and may unravel they mystery of Alice's first husband.

As to why she was noted as a spinster on her m/c to John Scholfield we may never know - maybe just a simply mistake........

[lancsann]

I think the registrar on that marriage certificate to John Schofield either did not ask the right questions or made assumptions. There surely were not 2 men named Thomas Palrefman Lane and Thomas Palfreyman Briggs, both of them Railway engine drivers. You did say one birth certificate said mmn late Lane formerly Briggs which usually means she was born Alice Briggs and her 1st marriage was to a man named Lane.

[dawnsh]

There is a birth and death Sept 1/4 1925 for Florrie Schofield mmn Lane but why would she be buried in a different cemetery to her mother?

my reply #2 and Brians reply # 28

[dawnsh]

Beckett Street cemetery

Lily Schofield, of 19 Henry Street Leeds, daughter of John W, April 15 1922, aged 2 years, in public grave 22316

Her 1920 birth is registered with mmn Lane

[lancsann]

there is only one birth of a Thomas Palfre(y)man in an approriate timescale

Births Dec 1856   (>99%)
Briggs    Thomas Palfreman        York    9d   32

Schofield children with mmn Lane and Briggs

It could be who registered the birth giving just a former name especially if the question was phrased 'former name of mother' rather than ' maiden name of mother'

[susan57]

Well, It seems what I thought was the right family is now clearly not  . Don't honestly know where to turn now. Disappointed.

[Ladyhawk]

Well, It seems what I thought was the right family is now clearly not  .

Don't honestly know where to turn now. Disappointed.

Hi Susan

Can we just recap and confirm that

Surname C & E Schofield mmn Briggs births on FreeBMD
Leeds 1923/1924 your Aunt & her sister

You have one of the b/c confirming Alice Schofield, late Lane, formely Briggs

Can you confirm the father’s name is John William Schofield?
What was his occupation?
Who was the informant on b/c?

You might want to think about obtaining the other b/c to see if that confirms the same info.

Are you certain that the 1919 marriage of Alice Lane & John William Schofield is the correct
one?

The only other suggestion I can give is perhaps taking a gamble and purchase the birth certificate
for Gladys R Lane, and fingers crossed that her mother is Alice formely Briggs