Thank you for all the above comments, I live in New Zealand and sorry I have posted in several places.
I have looked at the Kirkcaldy information and will do so again, so much of this information fits my James other than he always mentioned his mother as Margaret Lovett, but on James Death Certrticiate he lists his fathers name as Joseph Young Johnstone?? his son was the informant. so who knows.
On this Joseph Johnstone's Snr Death Certificate, died Kirkcaldy) his Father is John and his mother Mary Ann Cox (Ireland).
It is very hard to find proof as there is such a big gap till our James at some stage came to Australia and married in 1859.
The Ancestry Tree with the Merchant Navy material is not my Tree but I have looked at the documents.
Joseph jnr was deaf and dumb and was buried on his Grandfather James Young farm property.
Below is the information in Australia re James that I listed on the Beginners site in reply
James age on His Marriage Certificate - Australia was 27 years, married July 1859, James occupation Quarryman, birth Romsey Hants England..
Father occupation - Weaver
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James age on Death Certificate - New Zealand died November 1912 age 86 yrs
hence the birth difference! Occupation Retired... Birth place Kirkcaldy, Fife, Scotland.
Father Provost.
Children
Joseph Davey (twin) brother William died at 2 months. born December 1859 AUstralia, James listed as a Quarryman... aged 27 years, birth place London.
James born 1861 Australia , Father James occupation Quarryman age 29 Romsey Hants
John Archibald born 1863 Australia occupation Quarryman, age 30, birth place, Hampshire
Plus another5 born in New Zealand after 1964..
Another interesting item with my James in New Zealand and the Joseph Jphnstone family in Kirkcaldy is that my James named his children with all the same names, so many queries!!!!