Grace Crammon

[Margruss]

I have been trying to find the birth date and details for Grace Crammon born around 1820 in North Shields. Her father was Arthur Crammon and I believe her mother was Ann Chater. Grace married Stephen Harrison and then George Hunnam. I have scrolled through the Bishops transcripts and did find a birth for a William Cramen with the above parents. He could be her brother.
Many thanks
Margaret

[garstonite]

I notice Grace and George have a child - ARTHUR CROMMON Hunnam- note the middle name - Graces maiden name ?

Name   Arthur Crommon Hunnam
Gender   Male
Christening Date    30 Aug 1857
Christening Place   St. Hildas, South Shields, Durham, England
Birth Date   09 Aug 1855
Father's Name   George Hunnam
Mother's Name   Grace

so - is that a mistranscription - or should you look for a birth / baptism of a Grace CROMMON
a little strange naming her son after her first husband - Arthur - I wonder if Arthur died tragically and she named her son after him as a mark of respect for him ??

1871 has Grace as born 1821 and she is aged 50 - born in North Shields ,Northumberland

[Margruss]

Arthur Crammon Hunnam was my great grandfather and Arthur Crammon was Graces father not her husband. i have tried all spellings of Crammon but have not found a birth entry for Grace. The census gives her age  but I would like to have her birth details to confirm her mothers name.
I have Graces marriage certificate which only gives her fathers name. I have her death date so maybe I should go down that line of enquiry.  Do you know if death certificates in 1885 gave both parents details? I live in NZ   
Thanks for your reply
Margaret

[suzard]

wonder if this is Grace's parents?

1851
The Fold Chirton Tynemouth Northumberland
Arthur Crammon Head married 60 Waterman Newcastle Northumberland
Ann wife married 60 Dressmaker North Shields Northumberland
Ann Mason Lodger 10 scholar N Shields
HO107 2409 298 62

What occupation is given for Arthur on Grace's marriage cert?
one of Grace's daughters was named Ann


Suz

[Margruss]

Arthur is stated as a gardener on Graces marriage certificate, and Grace is stated as being a glazier. I am sure that Arthur was married to Ann Chater and have their marriage entry, but want make sure that Ann Chater was Graces mother.

[suzard]

It's very unusual at that time for a females occ to be on a marriage cert
In 1841
Chirton Northumberland
Arthur Cramen 50 labourer
Ann 50
William 25
all b in county
HO107 825 1 33 19

in answer to your previous question - parents are not named on death certificates - name of informant is given

also on early baptisms mother's name is not given

Suz

[Margruss]

Thanks again. Grace is not on the 41 census with  The Crammon family as she was married and widowed by then.