Who is Phyllis May Cedone Lee ?

[jim1]

The above lady married in 1913 B'ham to William Arkinstall & states she's a 21 yo spinster & lady dentist. (no Lee witnesses)
Her father is listed as Alfred Lee deceased a stone mason.
Her death cert. gives a birth of Oct. 1st. 1891.
On the Electoral Rolls she always gives her name as Phyllis M C Arkinstall.
Can't find her anywhere on planet earth.
Where did she come from ?
She's the Grandmother of a friend of mine.

[chrimes13]

hello .is she on 1911 census in brum some where should have her birth place or on 1901. will have a look  chrimes13

[avm228]

What was Phyllis' address at the time of the marriage, and who were the witnesses?

[jim1]

Address at marriage was Bk. 160 Barr St. B'ham the same address as her husband's.
Witnesses were Walter Jones & Mary Ogden.
Can't find her on any census.

[rosie99]

1939 free index gives birth year as 1885

[jim1]

1939 free index gives birth year as 1885

Well that opens it up a bit.

[Cas (stallc)]

Possible birth, maybe correct family?

Births Dec 1885   - Only one that possibly fits with year & birth Qtr from age given 39 reg
Lee Phillis Dudley 6c 132

Family are in Dudley, Court Stafford Street, in 1891 with Phyliss Lee age 5 mother Maria age 46 states married, no husband present.  Number of children all family b Dudley, one called Alfred.  1881 in Dudley, Court Stafford Street, Maria age 39 states herself a widow, wonder if Phyllis is illegitimate?

1901 Stafford Street, Maria Lee states married, no husband present age 50 with son Samuel age 19, and boarder Samuel Brockhouse age 60 who was with family in 1891. Widow in last census. Only states married with Samuel B present, who is also married, likely death 1907.

1871 Dudley, Maria Lees, age 28, states widow with 4 children all b Dudley.
1861 Maria Lee, age 18, married, no husband present with Brookes family (parents)
1860 possible marriage Maria Brookes to Henry Lee
1851 Maria Brookes with same Family

Cannot find Phyllis in last census.

Cas

[MonicaL]

With everything found so far, possible entry for Phillys in 1901 working away from home https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS7M-M4P

Monica

[jim1]

1901 looks the same Phyllis but if her father is Henry that would rule her out.