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Herrington help please
« on: Wednesday 22 June 16 15:00 BST (UK) »
Hi all

I am trying to confirm a father and discover a mother of my great Grandmother Elizabeth Herrington.

Elizabeth Herrington born abt 1873 in Petworth (according to their marriage cert to Henry Fisher
1 May 1897 was 23 years old). Cert also shows her father as James Herrington a Coachman (domestic), witnesses were Caroline May & C Frankling.

1891 census shows her aged 20 as born in Petworth RG12/552/12/17.

1901 census (now Elizabeth Fisher) shows her aged 27 as born in Teignmouth, Devon RG13/663/19/20.  I did consider that this was the wrong person but the address is the same as the address on my grandfather's birth cert.

1911 census shown as Elizabeth May Fisher shows her aged 38 as born in Petworth in Kingston Union Workhouse/Infirmary as a former Laundress with her one month old daughter Jessie Irene.

I cannot find an 1881 census for her.

I am trying to confirm a father James Herrington and a mother. 

My most obvious candidate is James Dummer Herrington who married Elizabeth Purser in Petworth in 1872 Q2 2b 460 but seemingly also Harriet Annie Grevatt in the same marriage index.

There is a James Herrington on the 1881 census RG11/791/67/9 in Chiddingfold, with a Caroline shown as his wife & a 10 year old Elizabeth born in Chiddingfold.

Please can anyone help confirm the correct James Herrington & daughter Elizabeth that I am searching for please?
Fisher, Rayson, Alcock, Davies.

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Re: Herrington help please
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 22 June 16 15:16 BST (UK) »
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My most obvious candidate is James Dummer Herrington who married Elizabeth Purser in Petworth in 1872 Q2 2b 460 but seemingly also Harriet Annie Grevatt in the same marriage index.

No, the actual record for marriages from Freebmd is


Marriages Jun 1872
   
GREVATT    Harriett Annie        
HERRINGTON    James Dummer        
PURSER    Elizabeth        
STONER    James

So two brides and two grooms - therefore if James Herrington married Elizabeth, James Stoner married Harriett. The way to eliminate it would be to find Harriett in 1881.         
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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 22 June 16 15:20 BST (UK) »
Yes - Harriett married James Stoner, obviously her as her mother is with them

1881  Petworth

James Stoner   34
Harriett A. Stoner   35
Alice M. Stoner           7
Richard Wither   60
Harriet Grevatt   63
Edward J. Grevatt   10


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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 22 June 16 15:39 BST (UK) »
I can't find a birth for Elizabeth in Petworth. 
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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 22 June 16 15:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks Groom. 

I've been struggling to prove which James Herrington is her father for some time. 
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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 22 June 16 16:18 BST (UK) »
The James Dummer may not be correct! He was baptised 6th Oct 1844, no father but mother was Harriet.

We have his marriage but from Sussex Online Parish Clerks he and his wife Elizabeth baptised a daughter Harriett Emily on the 26th December 1873 in Petworth. So unless your great grandmother changed her name it can't have been her. Unfortunately the records seem to stop in 1873.

http://www.sussex-opc.org/index.php?p=437&n=Herrington&t=baptism&k=369605&l=102
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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 22 June 16 17:34 BST (UK) »
Hi I see indeed you have been struggling for some time, a thread in 2009 for an Elizabeth Herrington b 1874 Teignmouth. Devon, in 1901 as Elizabeth Fisher, same father/occupation?
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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 22 June 16 17:44 BST (UK) »
I wonder how much of a coincidence is the presence of a James Herrington bn Petworth c1845 living in
Cobham, Surrey in 1891 and Chertsey in 1901 (where Elizabeth was in 1891)  His occupation was Boot maker though  ::)  He was still Still in the same area on the last census.

Have you traced this one back  :-\
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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 22 June 16 18:59 BST (UK) »
Hi all just get off my mind the Elizabeth Henly aged 7 b 1874 Petworth with parents Jeffrey/Elizabeth in 1881 RG11/1112/176/5 marriage December qtr 1874 Petworth, in 1891 Jeffrey is a Coachman Domestic?
Just cannot sort this Elizabeth out!
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