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Re: Overseas research question
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 25 June 16 05:47 BST (UK) »
Here is the list: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hv5/

He was going to Ishpeming, Michigan.

Ian

Brilliant research Ian - a well deserved pat on the back ...
found 4   Keinonen in Michigan
Onnen
Prudy
Charles
Henry ......all in Pentland Twp , Mackinac Michigan - on a few records Onnen is Onnie ..
just wondering if Onnie is a female name and is she Isaacs wife and Prudy,Charles and Henry their children ??
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Overseas research question
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 25 June 16 08:15 BST (UK) »
Brilliant research Ian - a well deserved pat on the back ...

Thank you Mr garstonite.

Ian

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Re: Overseas research question
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 25 June 16 09:04 BST (UK) »
I was intrigued to know where the Wiitala name came from.
Here is the Matti's household from 1867 in Lapua, Kaapakoski, Wiitala village, house nr 1:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hvr/

Matts Isaksson
Anna Isaksdotter
Lisa
Herman
Johan
Matti
August


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Re: Overseas research question
« Reply #21 on: Monday 27 June 16 14:38 BST (UK) »
Thank you for all the help. I apologize fo my absence the past few days. I had an internet connectivity issue that I just resolved. Ive been keeping up on my phone though. I have a question or two. I too noticed that on most early records he reported himself  and parents as being born in Finland and then later in life he reported Sweden/Swedish instead. I wonder why? My grandmother told me a story that Matt Emil had fled Finland because he killed an officer and changed his name from Schauman. But everything I have found is contrary to that story, well the name change part. He may have indeed fled to the US to escape punishment from the cassacs and to avoid the draft. But I still wonder. It had been many, many years since she heard the story, so perhaps she mixed up two stories or just misunderstood it.
  Also, what is the correct spelling? Wiitala, or Viitala? Ive read that both letters are interchangeable  and that the "W" is really not used in the Finnish language.
  I also found a document that places in Marquette, MI which is where he stated he was headed once he got to the US to meet his Uncle. SO perhaps I can trace his Uncles lineage here in America and possibly find distant cousins here in America. What I really want is a picture of Matt Emil. My family on my father side was very small and we have no pictures other than his parents and siblings. Perhaps his uncles family here in America have some photos when Matt Emil immigrated her and met up with his uncle in Michigan.
 Again, thank you so much for your help. Youve helped me answer questions Ive wondered my entire life. My grandfather, Edward Emil Vitala died in 1985 when I was 15, so its been tough to really find out any info on the Vitala name. From my research, the name means "from the land of young tress/forest."
 One other thing, how do I know which parent of Matt Emil the uncle is a sibling to? I cant seem to find any definitive info on the uncle here in the states. I did find a death record of a Frank Isaac in Ishpeming, MI. It listed him as single at the time of his death. Im trying to find if he had any children.


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Re: Overseas research question
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 30 June 16 12:04 BST (UK) »
Here is a translation for the marriage record for Matti Mattsson Wiitala:
Farmers son and church bell ringer student, bachelor Matti Mattsson Wiitala, Sax and spinster Hilda Rehnbäck from Kyrkoby, both from Lappo Parish. Speaker: farmers son Herman Mattsson Wiitala.


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Re: Overseas research question
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 30 June 16 12:08 BST (UK) »
I too noticed that on most early records he reported himself  and parents as being born in Finland and then later in life he reported Sweden/Swedish instead. I wonder why?

I am not an expert in this field but I think because the majority of the population spoke Swedish they perhaps thought they were Swedish. I think Emil spoke Swedish and most probably Finnish and couldn't decide what to write on the census.


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Re: Overseas research question
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 30 June 16 12:09 BST (UK) »
Also, what is the correct spelling? Wiitala, or Viitala? Ive read that both letters are interchangeable  and that the "W" is really not used in the Finnish language.

All the spellings I have seen are Wiitala.


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Re: Overseas research question
« Reply #25 on: Friday 01 July 16 00:08 BST (UK) »
While trying to trace this uncle Isaac I have found a number of records for the Wiitala family:


Matti Mattsson Wiitala Census 1855: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hx1/
Matti Mattsson Wiitala Census 1860: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hx0/
Matti Mattsson Wiitala Census 1873: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hx3/

Hilda Rehnbäck Birth 1854: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hx6/
Hilda Rehnbäck Census 1873: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hx4/
Hilda Rehnbäck Census 1874: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hx5/
Hilda Rehnbäck Census 1857: http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hx7/


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Re: Overseas research question regarding research in Finland or Sweden
« Reply #26 on: Friday 15 July 16 03:08 BST (UK) »
Thank you for all of your help. His uncle was difficult to find info on. I found his death certificate, but I cant find any offspring. I have a feeling, if he had any, they mayve changed the spelling of their name to a more Americanized name. I will look at the links that you provided in your last post. Again, youve been a great help. I wouldve never found all of this without it!!