Will a death certificate for an infant in 1858 state if her father is deceased?

[lanercost]

I have two English death certificates for spinsters from 1925 and 1952 that under their own occupation section give their father's names, occupations and state they're deceased, but I wanted to check that this was how they did things in the earlier years of civil registration as well.

The last mention of my 4th great grandfather John Duers I've found is his daughter Jane's baptism on July 5, 1856 in Carlisle, Cumberland (they were living in a workhouse). On December 24, 1858 his wife remarried claiming to be widowed, but after much searching I don't believe there's a death for him between these two dates nor afterward (There's a John Dewars death registered in Q3 1857 in Carlisle that fits nicely, but it belongs to his father). The certificate I'm planning to buy is for his daughter Jane in Q1 1858.

[chempat]

This example(of a 90 year old spinster) from 1910 does mention that the father is deceased:

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/images/Death%20Cert%20PDF.pdf

I cannot find, as yet, any typical 'official' earlier ones, or a date when anything changed.

[lanercost]

This example(of a 90 year old spinster) from 1910 does mention that the father is deceased:

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/images/Death%20Cert%20PDF.pdf

I cannot find, as yet, any 'official' earlier ones, or a date when anything changed.

Thanks chempat, I've seen that. Just wondering if it was the same in the mid 1800s and with children.

[chempat]

This guide?

http://www.dixons.clara.co.uk/Certificates/deaths.htm

Marriage certificates do not always state if Father is deceased, so pot luck?

[lanercost]

This guide?

http://www.dixons.clara.co.uk/Certificates/deaths.htm

Marriage certificates do not always state if Father is deceased, so pot luck?

Thanks again, I hadn't seen that page. Very informative but I guess it is pot luck.

[Jamjar]

Have you checked for a death for him in Scotland?

Jamjar

[lanercost]

Have you checked for a death for him in Scotland?

Jamjar

Yes I have, nothing there.

[Jamjar]

There's a John DEWASS death Carlisle December quarter 1857.

Sounds like Dewers if you say it quickly. 

Jamjar

[lanercost]

There's a John DEWASS death Carlisle December quarter 1857.

Sounds like Dewers if you say it quickly. 

Jamjar

Thanks but that's his father with the surname Dewars. I purchased that awhile ago expecting it to be this John Duers/Dewars but no dice.