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Birmingham 1861 Census
« on: Wednesday 20 July 16 22:25 BST (UK) »
Whilst looking at the census for 1861 an ancestor of mine has an address of "Cottage in a garden". Never came across such an address before.The district is Deritend, Aston, Birmingham. The street as far as I can see is Edward Street and the following entry is for Spring Court which I presume is in Edward Street. I can't find any reference to this street but the next street mentioned is Glover Street. I can find Glover street but not Edward Street. Any help anyone?
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Re: Birmingham 1861 Census
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 22:39 BST (UK) »
Whilst looking at the census for 1861 an ancestor of mine has an address of "Cottage in a garden". Never came across such an address before.

See "Persons Not In Houses" in the Enumerator's Instructions for the 1861 Census
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Re: Birmingham 1861 Census
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 20 July 16 22:56 BST (UK) »
I have this on one of mine,

Mine was also the 1861 census (but in Bristol) and is 'House in Garden, City Boundary behind Brittania Public House'

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Re: Birmingham 1861 Census
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 21 July 16 07:34 BST (UK) »
Thanks for both those replies. Looking at the instructions for the enumerators, I wonder if this was a permanent place for them to sleep or were they just visiting? Another question comes to mind would the houses in that street have gardens or is this just a convenient description for the enumerator to write down?
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Re: Birmingham 1861 Census
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 21 July 16 08:37 BST (UK) »
Can you give the name of your ancestor or the census reference? The 1861 Street Index has "Cottage Gardens" but no "Spring Court" there is a "Spring Hill Court".

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Re: Birmingham 1861 Census
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 21 July 16 10:56 BST (UK) »
Thanks for taking the trouble to look. The entry is as follows:
1861 Census
Page 87
Entry number 188 Name:- John Gumbley
Parish:- Aston
City:- Birmingham
Municipal Ward:- Deritend & Bordesley

I hope this is the information you require
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Re: Birmingham 1861 Census
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 21 July 16 12:31 BST (UK) »
There appear to be gardens off Little Edward Street with some small buildings as shown on this 1889 map https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/408423/286662/13/100356

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Re: Birmingham 1861 Census
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 21 July 16 12:37 BST (UK) »
From the description of the 1861 enumeration district Edward Street is Little Edward Street on the 1889 map.


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Re: Birmingham 1861 Census
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 21 July 16 13:42 BST (UK) »
Superb again Stan, many thanks for taking the time and trouble in locating this for me.
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