Newfloridian - are you still interested in finding out who George Joseph Kenny was, said to be son of Joseph George Kenny, both coachmen??
I saw a tree on Ancestry which had his birthdate as 15th June 1870 and remembered being frustrated when I participated in this thread back in 2016.
Having looked at this again (following the recent posts made) and subsequently forming a conclusion, I decided to get a PDF copy of a birth certificate to prove it (or not). Happily, it did!
He was born as George Joseph Piper on 15th June 1870 at 3 Danvers Buildings, Duke Street, Chelsea, illegitimate son of Mary Piper. He was actually baptised as such on 18/9/1870 Chelsea , birthdate shown 15th June 1870 BUT shown as son of George Robert Piper, Bricklayer, and wife Mary Ann. George Robert Piper was actually Mary Ann's brother!!! One can only assume that Mary wanted him baptised but not as illegitimate so gave his fathers details as that of her own brother (or even father). Both her father and brother were named George Robert Piper, senior a bricklayers labourer, and junior a bricklayer!
In 1871 - same address as where George Joseph born - are 2 separate households. First is Mary's parents and unmarried brother, second is Mary Ann Kenny, 22, Mar. born Chelsea and her son now George Joseph Kenny 9 months. Her husband Joseph Kenny is living alone at New House, Longworth, Berkshire, aged 24, Marr. Groom, born Chelsea, Middlesex.
Married 25/12/1870, St. Philip, Kensington Mary Ann Piper, dau. of George Piper, Labourer married Joseph Thomas Kenny, Groom, son of Joseph Thomas Kenny, Bricklayer.
1881 I can't seem to find the family but 4 more children had been born:
George Robert Kenny - birth Mar.1873 Kensington - mmn Piper, died June 1876 Easthampstead, Berkshire (clearly named after Mary's father and brother but a little odd in that first born son was a George Joseph??)
Mary Amelia Kenny - birth Mar.1874 St George Hanover Square - mmn Piper
Frederick Thomas Kenny - birth Dec.1875 Easthampstead, Berks - mmn Piper, died same quarter at St. George Hanover Square
Albert Henry Kenny - birth Mar.1877 Chelsea - mmn Piper
From the above births/deaths looks like the family were in Berkshire 1875-1876.
1891 Joseph, Mary and daughter Mary A. are living in Kensington
1901 Joseph is a visitor to a family named Edwards at St. George Hanover Square. Wife Mary A. is living in Battersea and shown as 'Living on own means'.
1911 - the couple are together in Battersea.
Looks like Joseph died as plain Joseph in June quarter 1933 Windsor, Berks. (A Mary A Kenny death in Mar.1915 Wandsworth may possibly be his wife).
Annette
