Death at Sea Records

[ShaunJ]

On that 1923 manifest for the Celtic, John Carney was travelling as a passenger. His occupation was dental mechanic. His passage had been paid for by his uncle Louis.

[t mo]

hi joan
have asked mods to lift e mail address in case of hacking or worse ! will pm you later .
regards
trevor

[seaweed]

Not a lot to add.
 Sorry to be negative but the card CR10 tells us very little. In fact there is nothing that shows that this individual ever went to sea at all. There is no indication of which ship he was intended for, Nor any indication of other ships he may have sailed on. There is a slight difference in the date of birth. There is no Discharge A number, (A unique number relating to an individual seaman a very useful tool in tracing  seamen)
 This what a properly part completed CR10 should look like.
http://www.irishmariners.ie/cr10-example.php
 You will note several six digit official numbers on the second card which tells us which ships this man sailed on.
There is no record of John Carney on the Irish Mariners site.

 The photograph of John Carney. Did it ring any bells?

The deaths at sea records I can see on FindMyPast are the Deaths at Sea indexs which shows nothing of interest. What we want is the registers of deaths of seamen  in BT334/89 and BT 334/92

[ladyirish]

Dear Trevor:  Thank you for having my email lifted! I am very new and I'm just learning.  Very grateful..

Dear Seaweed: I appreciate you taking time to look at the records you were sent. I haven't seen his picture yet but I am sure I would know him as the Carney's have very distinct features. 

Warmly,
Joan

[ladyirish]

Dear ShaunJ:  I believe I have that record.  His uncle Louis Carney was my grandfather.  Thank you!

[t mo]

following on from shauns post a john carney left new York for Liverpool arrival date 15 june 1924 his intended place of residence 2 Carlisle circus Belfast ! on the outgoing list the address was stated as 20 Carlisle crescent Belfast, as far as I can make out there is or was both a Carlisle crescent and a circus so a case of take your pick me thinks , whats your thoughts joan
best wishes
trevor

[ladyirish]

Hi Trevor,

I hope you received my email claiming the details and photo as correct!  What joy I experienced today!  I will confirm the address as 2-A Carlisle Circus, Befast as being absolutely correct.

Thank you,
Joan

[ShaunJ]

Just for reference - Sarah Carney at 2a Carlisle Circus in the 1924 Directory

http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk/images/1924BSD/1924strs%200059.jpg

[ladyirish]

Yes, ShaunJ, Sarah Carney (John's grandmother and my great grandmother) and his aunt Winifred Carney lived at that address for many years.  In fact, the following relatives listed their address at 2-A Carlisle Circus as well:  Ernest Carney, Louis Carney, Alfred H. Carney...  I visited that location on my recent trip to Ireland.