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Help! My Baileys are hiding again!
« on: Tuesday 26 July 16 17:45 BST (UK) »
My Baileys are in hiding again :( and I need a fresh set of eyes please in case I'm missing something obvious. I've previously posted about Mary Jane Bailey who falls off radar but then possibly ends up in Prestwich Asylum where she dies.

Henry Bailey, born circa Q2 1863 in Welshpool, is the second son of William b. 1842 d.1878) and Mary Bailey (b.1844). They are in Pool Middle, Welshpool in 1871 census then in the Regent Road area of Salford in 1881. They were in Gorton for a while in between as there are baptism records from Henry's younger sisters and family members also pop up in Hulme. William dies in 1878 leaving Mary a widow in her mid 30s with 6 children. I'm missing quite a few of them in 1891 but some of them pop up again with getting married or having children but some have disappeared and I can't find any record for them. Any help would be gratefully received. I'm currently stuck with...

Sarah Elizabeth Bailey. b. circa 1870 Welshpool - missing from the 1881 census so possibly died as a child but haven't been able to find a death record.

Henry Bailey. b.1963 Welshpool - last seen on the 1881 census.

David Aldred William Bailey. b. 1862 Welshpool. Marries Charlotte Large in 1883 and they are living together in Ordsall in 1891 the he disappears.

I've been going through the documents and things I've found in case I've missed anything but they are puzzling me. Again! Any help is gratefully rec'd.


Thank you :D

Updated:
David Alfred William Bailey. b. 1862 Welshpool. Marries Charlotte Large in 1883 and they are living together in Ordsall in 1891 and dies later in 1891. Cannot find any descendants of Charlotte and David.

Sarah Elizabeth Bailey. b. circa 1870 Welshpool - missing from the 1881, possible death record found for 1871.
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Re: Help! My Baileys are hiding again!
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 26 July 16 17:51 BST (UK) »
Here is the link which concentrated on Mary Jane Bailey and daughter and husband.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=727471.0
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Re: Help! My Baileys are hiding again!
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 26 July 16 19:47 BST (UK) »
I think this is probably your David Alfred William Bailey on freebmd June 1891

Bailey    David Alfred    29    Salford    8d   156
Rigby-Lathom, Freckleton,
Singleton-Fylde
Moss-Rufford
Johnson-Tarleton
Hull-Tarleton, Fylde
French-Abram,Rainford
Blake-Upton in Cheshire
Bolas-Shropshire
Butler- Greenhalgh, Lancs
Harrison - Garstang, Lancs

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Re: Help! My Baileys are hiding again!
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 26 July 16 21:03 BST (UK) »
Can you check your dates?   William bn 1863 cannot be the second son of Henry bn 1854!!!
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Help! My Baileys are hiding again!
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 26 July 16 21:38 BST (UK) »
Can you check your dates?   William bn 1863 cannot be the second son of Henry bn 1854!!!

Yes sorry, it should have been 1842.
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Re: Help! My Baileys are hiding again!
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 26 July 16 21:40 BST (UK) »
1871 - mistranscribed on Ancestry (for info)


Name   Age
Willm Hailey   29
Mary Hailey   28
Daniel Alfred William Hailey   8
Henry Hailey   7
Evan John Hailey   6
Mary Jane Hailey   5
William Hailey   2
Sarah Elizabeth Hailey   4 Months

living in Welshpool

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Re: Help! My Baileys are hiding again!
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 26 July 16 21:48 BST (UK) »
could this be possible

Births Mar 1871   (>99%)
Bailey    Sarah Elizabeth        Forden    11b   231

Deaths Sep 1871   (>99%)
Bailey    Sarah Elizabeth    4    Forden    11b   131 - incorrect age maybe

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 26 July 16 22:04 BST (UK) »
Charlotte Bailey remarries in 1896 (from Lancs BMD)

Surname   Forename(s)   Surname   Forename(s)   Church / Register Office   Registers At   Reference
BAILEY   Charlotte   BUTTERWORTH   James H   Hulme, St. Mary   
BUTTERWORTH   James H   BAILEY   Charlotte   Hulme, St. Mary   
BUTTERWORTH   James H   LARGE   Charlotte   Hulme, St. Mary   
LARGE   Charlotte   BUTTERWORTH   James H   Hulme, St. Mary   

Name:   Charlotte Bailey
Birth Year:   abt 1865
Age:   31
Marriage Date:   4 Nov 1896
Parish:   Hulme, St Mary
Parish as it Appears:   St Mary Hulme
Father:   Henry Large
Spouse:   James Henry Butterworth
Spouse Father:   William Butterworth

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Re: Help! My Baileys are hiding again!
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 26 July 16 22:06 BST (UK) »
I think this is probably your David Alfred William Bailey on freebmd June 1891

Bailey    David Alfred    29    Salford    8d   156

Thank you Granny M. How sad :( Common theme for the Baileys I'm afraid. Think you're right though, just found a second marriage for Charlotte and she is down as a widow in 1896, and then she dies in 1909.
Frost, Quine, Stowell, Atherton, Gill.