Sarah FIRTH m Joseph GAUNT - Kirkburton - births records - 1729

[Calverley Lad]

Could Sarah's father have been a doctor, a birth recorded October 13 1714 Kipping?
 Brian
The word I was looking for was excommunicated.

[Wiggy]

I don't know Brian, but she was listed as being 25 when she married, and her birth year was given as 1704, so, probably not.

I would like it to be right,     

Thing is, I don't know where places are . . . . .  I keep looking at maps, trying to see how places relate to others, but, I've been 'bitten' before when I saw a place which seemed close, and someone pointed out that the Pennines were in between!   These are the things which trap those who are not familiar with the topography.     

[Calverley Lad]

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/#Towns
Would the above link make it any easier for you?
 Brian

[LizzieL]

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/#Towns
Would the above link make it any easier for you?
 Brian

if you follow a couple of links from that page you get nearby places

http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/nearby?CCC=WRY,GR=SE198128,DISTANCE=5,PN=Kirkburton

and you can change the distance.
I use google maps a lot and do a walking route between two places, to see if it would be feasible. One tip I got from a very helpful member of staff at Essex record office, was that people walked surprisingly long distances in the 19th century and that they may go 10 miles or more each way to the nearest market town once or twice a week.

if Sarah's family were Quakers would there be a baptism in the same way as other denominations? Maybe no baptism record. Another possible way is to look for wills. If she was from the family at the Hall, they would be likely to leave wills - although if excommunicated she might not get a mention.

[jaybelnz]

Wiggy, you probably know this already, but just in case - do you know that there's a Quaker Board on here, in Special Interests?

[Wiggy]

Thanks for those links Lizzie and Brian.    I will peruse later when I get home.

Thanks Jeanne - I think I am barking up the wrong tree . . .     But will go there later if necessary - thanks for the reminder.

Further research and contact from the distant rellie in England  reminds me that the Joseph I am after was born in 1703 as from his gravestone - so, unless that one I was so hopeful about is way out with his age, I am onto the wrong marriage.       (But looking at the gravestone again,  - - I just don't know!)    Read further . . something very odd here.

Just when I thought I was tying up some loose ends!

We have a marriage in 1729 for a Joseph Gaunt to Sarah Hinscliff but it takes place in Calverley and  is by banns - which, Borthwick Archives tell me, means there isn't much more to be learnt from other documentation.  That marriage says 'both of this parish . . .  so what was farmer's son Joseph doing in Calverley - - taking time out from the farm??

And I still can't find a birth for Sarah to fit this marriage.

The gravestone says Joseph Gaunt of Upper Denby, was 60 at death in 1789 - so I don't know what's going on there.  Sarah died in 1791 but age at death isn't clear.  Also in the same grave are Joseph Gaunt of Stubbing and Hannah whom we presume to be his son and daughter in law - (and his infant daughter Elizabeth.)

I'm lost.

Will have to sit down and have a good think!

[Wiggy]

Thanks for reminding me . . .I should have linked these two threads.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=752739.9;topicseen


Though I don't think this one is relevant to my tree, it still could be useful to others.

Wiggy 

[Wiggy]

The gravestone says Joseph Gaunt of Upper Denby, was 60 at death in 1789 - so I don't know what's going on there.  Sarah died in 1791 but age at death isn't clear.  Also in the same grave are Joseph Gaunt of Stubbing and Hannah whom we presume to be his son and daughter in law - (and his infant daughter Elizabeth.)

I'm lost.

Will have to sit down and have a good think!

Right - I have sat down and had a good think and now I realise that I have confused two generations . . .  because the next Joseph lacked consideration for his descendants, and married a Sarah too - and I got the two confused.

So -  the Joseph and Sarah I am concerned with at the moment (i.e. those married in 1729,  . . He died in 1749, and she in 1747 - according to one family historian living in Yorkshire.

 . . .  still can't find documents to support this, but he must have, as he did his work before the internet and was 'on the ground' to do it.

[BumbleB]

Denby:

Sarah, wife of Joseph Gaunt, buried 29 April 1747
J....., son of Joseph Gaunt, buried 5 July 1747
Joseph Gaunt buried 20 September 1749

Added:
I think perhaps the son is Jonathan - baptised 24 September 1734 at Denby, son of Joseph.