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[aghadowey]

Have posted Lillian's birth and partial marriage details for the parents now with link to N.S. vital records 

[Spidermonkey]

The 1911 census gives James' place of birth as NewtowCunningham, Donegal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newtown_Cunningham

Mind you, the census also says that they had 8 children born alive, 4 of whom are still living (Caroline, Lizzie, Francis and Maud) - but surely Lillian is still alive too.....

[aghadowey]

The 4 living children are probably just the four living in the household- many people were confused by this new question on the 1911 census form.

I did find other possible children listed in GRONI's database earlier so let me know if you'd like me to look them up again and post the details 

[Spidermonkey]

In the service papers on FindMyPast, there is a letter from James Speers requesting his attestation papers (it's really feint writing, but I think he needs to prove his age in order to get a pension).  Anyway, the address given on the letter is Fountain Street, Londonderry!

[sarah]

Thank you for the information so far there was 5 siblings who came over here in 1927 my father being the last to be born in Ireland  I am waiting on further information from a relative I do know there is a grave mcroberts in Dundonald  cemetery

Posted on behalf of Anne who sent me the message in error.

Sarah

[aghadowey]

Is this the McRoberts' plot in Dundonald Cemetery?

Andrew McRoberts died 1972 age 73
   https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=8387.8112
Elizabeth McRoberts died 1988 age 92
   https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=8491.7415
Annie Thompson died 2001 age 82
   https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=8797.11451

If this is the correct family then Elizabeth McRoberts born c1896. Since information in records can vary you will probably soon need to confirm details by getting some certificates rather than depending on out findings based on the details you've posted.

Added-
stillborn son of Andrew & Elizabeth McRoberts (1929)-
   https://ssl.belfastcity.gov.uk/burialsearch/BurialRecordDetails.aspx?RecordID=8041.12337

[Spidermonkey]

Message from Anne who sent this by PM to me (prob by accident):

The burial in Dundonald cemetery are not my grandparents  they died and we're buried in Kilmarnock  my grandmother elizabeth  (nee) speers was born 1/5/1892 and died 27/8/1966 her father was James speers railway porter married to elizabeth speers ( nee) Baillie . My grandfather andrew mcroberts  was buried along side my grandmother he passed away on the 21/21961 his father was andrew mcroberts  ( general labourer) he was married to Margaret Johnstone .

[aghadowey]

When you are asking for assistance in finding more information then it helps to tell us all the details you know at the start to save us from wasting time searching for information you already know.

You can use the Belfast cemeteries site to search for the 2 children that are supposed to be buried in Dundonald Cemetery.

[Spidermonkey]

So, looking at the marriage record for James and Elizabeth Speers, it says that James' parents were David and Martha, (Elizabeth's parents were Joseph and Elizabeth, as Aghadowey mentioned earlier)