Mary Ann HAYTER

[cargill]

I am trying to find detail on the family (parents and siblings) of Mary Ann HAYTER who married Matthew HABENS in 1834. I imagine that she was probably born around 1810 or so given the marriage date. Mary Ann and Matthew's son was William James HABENS (1839-1899) http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/biographies/2h1/habens-william-james

My paternal grandfather's name was Frederick Willian Habens STEWART and FWH Stewart's grandmother was Joanna HAYTER (dob unknown but likely around 1800-1810). I am thinking there may be a family connection particularly as my grandfather moved for a short time from Australia to New Zealand very soon after William HABENS' death. Any help with the HAYTER connection would be appreciated.

[Jamjar]

I'm not sure what you are looking for.

I did a net search and one site says Mary: Born: 1807 at: Lymington, Hampshire, England

Matthew's folks: Alexander and Francis Boxall. Born 7 July 1811, Gosport, Hampshire.

Marriage: 22 April, Alverstoke, Hampshire.

On the '61 census there is Mary, Matthew and Son William aged 14. Father's occupation is shopkeeper, boot and shoe. Says he was born in Forton and Mary in Lymington, son in Brighton, where they are living at time of census.

Same for the '71 minus William.

Christening for same parents 10 May 1835 for a Frederick, Alverstoke, Hampshire.

Is this Joanna's marriage? James Stewart to Joanna Hayter, 19 Feb 1828
St. Mary's Church, Portsea, Hampshire, England

On the '41, Alexander and Frances are at Alverstoke with a family of surname Fryer.



Jamjar

[chempat]

Just putting the 1851 census, for reference, from Ancestry:
Registration district   Brighton  Sub-registration district   The Palace
Mathew Harlen          39   Forton, Hampshire, England
Mary Ann Harlen   44  Lymington
William James Harlen   11  all children Brighton
Alfred Harlen   9
Mary Ann Harlen   8
Francis Joanna Harlen   
HO107    Piece 1646   Folio 541    Page 29

Added:
And 1841
Living at Gloster (?) Lane
Matthews Habens   30  shopkeeper  not local
Mary Habens        30   not local
William Habens   2
Alfred Habens       1
HO107    Piece 1121    Book 8   Brighthelmstone, Sussex
 Enumeration District: 21    Folio 38    Page   14

[Jamjar]

On the Familysearch '51 census they have them as, HARBEN 

Jamjar

[Jamjar]

On the '61 children Alfred and Maryanne are at London Rd, Brighton. It says they are son and daughter but there are no parents there.

Page Number   6
Registration Number   RG09
Piece/Folio   595 / 155

Frances Joanna died December 1851

[cargill]

Thank you Jamjar & chempat. It looks like Habens and Harlen in the '41 and '51 censuses are the same family. I know many names were very common but the fact that Mary Ann had a daughter with a middle name of Joanna might indicate she was named after an aunt perhaps? If I can tie in Joanna HAYTER with Mary Ann HABENS (nee Hayter) that would be great.

Yes, Jamjar, Joanna HAYTER did marry James STEWART in Feb 1828. Thanks again.

[Jamjar]

Thank you Jamjar & chempat. It looks like Habens and Harlen in the '41 and '51 censuses are the same family. I know many names were very common but the fact that Mary Ann had a daughter with a middle name of Joanna might indicate she was named after an aunt perhaps? If I can tie in Joanna HAYTER with Mary Ann HABENS (nee Hayter) that would be great.

Yes, Jamjar, Joanna HAYTER did marry James STEWART in Feb 1828. Thanks again.

Yes, one gets a feeling there's a connection. I'm sure when more folk get onto it and answer will be found.

Janice.

[chempat]

No baptisms showing here:

http://www.knightroots.co.uk/transcriptions/Parishes_L/Lymington/Baptisms/baptisms.htm

[Jebber]

Mary Ann HAYTER bp. Lymington 25th January 1807 born 29th December 1806, dau Saml and Ann.

Perhaps this is what you are looking for.

Jabber