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Miles family if Llannelly near Abergavenny
« on: Thursday 04 August 16 08:08 BST (UK) »
Following up on my Hiram Aston post previously, I am now looking for his mother Ann Miles and her mother Elizabeth Miles.

Having found them in the 1841 census, I am struggling to find any other reference to Elizabeth Miles before or after. What was her maiden name and where did she come from.

I am also puzzled by an entry on the 1841 census for Mary Miles aged 18 who lives with the family. How is she related to Ann and Elizabeth?

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Clarke - Berkhamstead, Herts, Crowle, Lincolnshire
Gosden - Chertsey, Addlestone, Shalford, Wonersh
Aston (Ashton) - Blakeney, Gloucs
Elias - Wales
Miles - Llanelli, Breconshire or Monmouthshire
Howard - Horsell, Woking, Surrey
Sarchet and Le Lechure - Guernsey
Duckham - Plymouth, Devon
Stanyon - Rutland
Cannon - East London, Bethnal Green
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Re: Miles family if Llannelly near Abergavenny
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 04 August 16 15:38 BST (UK) »
I can't seem to find Mary Miles 18 - whereabouts are they living - Llanelly?

How old are Ann and Elizabeth on that census?
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Re: Miles family if Llannelly near Abergavenny
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 04 August 16 16:07 BST (UK) »
It would have helped if this had been posted, I looked at your previous post but that mentions a Joseph  ::)    ;)

1841 Turnpike Road, Llanelly
James Miles age 38 occ Carpenter
Elizabeth 30
Richard 8
Anne 2
Mary 18
all born in County
H0107/1366 bk7 f31 p21

From other post
Just noticed that the 1841 Llanelly census appears to show an 18 year old Mary Miles living with Joseph and Elizabeth Miles and their two children in Turnpike Road. I wonder who she was. Did Joseph have a previous marriage even before he married Elizabeth.

Elizabeth herself is also proving elusive. I can't find her birth or Maiden Name.
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Re: Miles family if Llannelly near Abergavenny
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 04 August 16 19:38 BST (UK) »
It would have helped if this had been posted, I looked at your previous post but that mentions a Joseph  ::)    ;)

1841 Turnpike Road, Llanelly
James Miles age 38 occ Carpenter
Elizabeth 30
Richard 8
Anne 2
Mary 18
all born in County
H0107/1366 bk7 f31 p21

From other post
Just noticed that the 1841 Llanelly census appears to show an 18 year old Mary Miles living with Joseph and Elizabeth Miles and their two children in Turnpike Road. I wonder who she was. Did Joseph have a previous marriage even before he married Elizabeth.

Elizabeth herself is also proving elusive. I can't find her birth or Maiden Name.
 

Sorry - my mistake. Joseph Aston was Ann's husband. James Miles was her father as you have picked up.

The question is how is Mary related to Anne. I presume they have different mothers as Anne's Mum was only 12 when Mary was born?.

Interestingly, Anne's Dad James is with a Mary Anne Miles of the same age as Mary Miles in a later census.



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Carter - Chilbolton, Hampshire
Clarke - Berkhamstead, Herts, Crowle, Lincolnshire
Gosden - Chertsey, Addlestone, Shalford, Wonersh
Aston (Ashton) - Blakeney, Gloucs
Elias - Wales
Miles - Llanelli, Breconshire or Monmouthshire
Howard - Horsell, Woking, Surrey
Sarchet and Le Lechure - Guernsey
Duckham - Plymouth, Devon
Stanyon - Rutland
Cannon - East London, Bethnal Green
Cannons - West Tytherley, Hampshire


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Re: Miles family if Llannelly near Abergavenny
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 04 August 16 20:58 BST (UK) »
Hi, the 1841 census is in Llanelly, Crickhowell Reg District, Breconshire, not Monmouthshire.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01i51/
http://www.genuki.org.uk/files/wal/BRE/Llanelli/index.html

Maybe ask for this to be moved, some have Brecon parish records that my help.

There are quite a few Miles families in this area.

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Miles family if Llannelly near Abergavenny
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 04 August 16 23:14 BST (UK) »
Thanks Cas

I did struggle with which county to choose. I understand that Llanelly is sometimes in Breconshire and sometimes in Monmouthshire.

If there is info on Miles families in Breconshire, it sounds like I do need to get ths moved over.

Carter - Chilbolton, Hampshire
Clarke - Berkhamstead, Herts, Crowle, Lincolnshire
Gosden - Chertsey, Addlestone, Shalford, Wonersh
Aston (Ashton) - Blakeney, Gloucs
Elias - Wales
Miles - Llanelli, Breconshire or Monmouthshire
Howard - Horsell, Woking, Surrey
Sarchet and Le Lechure - Guernsey
Duckham - Plymouth, Devon
Stanyon - Rutland
Cannon - East London, Bethnal Green
Cannons - West Tytherley, Hampshire

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Re: Miles family if Llannelly near Abergavenny
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 06 August 16 08:13 BST (UK) »
Not sure how to get ths moved to the Breconshire board. Can a mod help me please.

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Carter - Chilbolton, Hampshire
Clarke - Berkhamstead, Herts, Crowle, Lincolnshire
Gosden - Chertsey, Addlestone, Shalford, Wonersh
Aston (Ashton) - Blakeney, Gloucs
Elias - Wales
Miles - Llanelli, Breconshire or Monmouthshire
Howard - Horsell, Woking, Surrey
Sarchet and Le Lechure - Guernsey
Duckham - Plymouth, Devon
Stanyon - Rutland
Cannon - East London, Bethnal Green
Cannons - West Tytherley, Hampshire

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Re: Miles family if Llannelly near Abergavenny
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 August 16 08:18 BST (UK) »
Click on 'report to moderator' button, bottom right corner and request.

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Miles family if Llannelly near Abergavenny
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 07 August 16 08:42 BST (UK) »
Thanks Cas and thanks mods.

Summarising what I am trying to find out as follows;

Who were Elizabeth Miles' parents?

What was Elizabeth's relationship to Mary Miles?

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Carter - Chilbolton, Hampshire
Clarke - Berkhamstead, Herts, Crowle, Lincolnshire
Gosden - Chertsey, Addlestone, Shalford, Wonersh
Aston (Ashton) - Blakeney, Gloucs
Elias - Wales
Miles - Llanelli, Breconshire or Monmouthshire
Howard - Horsell, Woking, Surrey
Sarchet and Le Lechure - Guernsey
Duckham - Plymouth, Devon
Stanyon - Rutland
Cannon - East London, Bethnal Green
Cannons - West Tytherley, Hampshire