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Re: Lutus -Lithuania-
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 11 August 16 20:44 BST (UK) »
oh wow!!! Thank you so much everyone, for the help. I apologize that I couldn't be on here sooner to thank all of you!

I tried looking for my grandfather and grandmother on Ellis Island's passenger logs, but I couldn't find anything. I was told by the staff that I would just have to scour through the logs to find anyone that looked familiar. My problem is, if his name was added in incorrectly, it feels like I am looking for a needle in a haystack!

Again thank you so much everyone, for your help! This was amazing to wake up to this morning!

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And a big shoutout to aghadowey. All that information was important to know!

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Re: Lutus -Lithuania-
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 11 August 16 23:58 BST (UK) »
We aren't finished yet  ;)

Think I found his arrival in New York (details slightly different than naturalization paperwork)-

22 Mar.1900 "Astoria" arrived N.Y, from Glasgow, Scotland:
Anton Luksus, 27, single, labr, residence- Kursan, $17, going to Josef Loses [?] Boston, Mass.
can't find a 2nd page of manifest but there is a supplimental page-
country- Russian, Province- Romo, mother tongue- Lithuanian
next entry-
Paul Urban, 28, tailor, Kursan, also giving U.S. contact as Joseph Loses [?] Boston, Mass.

Added- Kursan (in above manifest) is another form of Kursenai (birthplace on naturalization record). What I'm not sure of is word I've transcribed as 'Romo' as I can't fit this into the area geographically.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Lutus -Lithuania-
« Reply #20 on: Friday 12 August 16 03:06 BST (UK) »
That sounds about right for his information. I might try and see if Scotland was keeping a log of their own. Maybe I can get more information from that. Thanks again! :)


ADDED: I may have found his departure log in Glasgow.

10 MARCH 1900 Astoria left Glasgow, Scotland. Anton Luksar, age 28, Labor. Born about 1872. Shipping Line; Anchor Line
Master: Wadsworth.

Now my question is, can I use this information to somehow trace his journey to Scotland from Lithuanian, or Russia.

EDIT #!: It looks like Anton Luksar might be a different person! His Ellis Island log doesn't list a place of last known residence. Luksus did, and it was krusenai

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Re: Lutus -Lithuania-
« Reply #21 on: Friday 12 August 16 06:53 BST (UK) »
Also, reading on Ancestry's website. Apparently, there was a six-week residency period, before immigrants could be allowed passage to the United States

"Between 1890 and 1920, among the highest tonnage of ships were leaving British ports bound for North America. Many passengers were emigrants from Britain, Ireland and Europe. European emigrants bound for America entered the United Kingdom because travelling steerage was less expensive from a British port than from a port in Europe. The shipping companies imposed restrictions on passengers registering; passengers had to have British residency of six weeks to qualify. Many passengers too impatient to qualify for residency changed their names to avoid detection.""

What I am now curious about is if my Grandfather changed his name? Or took up residency somewhere? Would his residency be cataloged? Where did Immigrants fleeing Europe stay during this time period?


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Re: Lutus -Lithuania-
« Reply #22 on: Friday 12 August 16 08:45 BST (UK) »
EDIT #!: It looks like Anton Luksar might be a different person! His Ellis Island log doesn't list a place of last known residence. Luksus did, and it was krusenai

On Ellis Island using the passenger search it does list "Last Residence" as Kursan. The text version further below (listed on page 2 of 3) transcribes it also as Kursan. It is frame 21 for your Anton Luksus. Note there is an Anton Luksar on frame 18!


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Re: Lutus -Lithuania-
« Reply #23 on: Friday 12 August 16 08:51 BST (UK) »
Here is the brief transcript on Family Search:-

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JX89-WMC


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Re: Lutus -Lithuania-
« Reply #24 on: Friday 12 August 16 09:10 BST (UK) »
So which Anton appears to be the right one? I have a departure log from Scotland that shows Anton Luksar, but I couldn't find Anton Luksus, or any other Anton on the same boat to New York.

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Re: Lutus -Lithuania-
« Reply #25 on: Friday 12 August 16 09:18 BST (UK) »
"Astoria" departed Glasgow 10 Mar.1900. The outgoing passenger lists give minimal detail but the whole page are very 'un-Scottish' names!
Anton Luksus on line #8 (Paul Urban line #9) so this is certainly the correct one- trouble is they've transcribed is age as 97 instead of 27!
(I searched for a departure 10 Mar.1900, keyword Astoria and first name Anton to find him)
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Re: Lutus -Lithuania-
« Reply #26 on: Friday 12 August 16 09:24 BST (UK) »
Yes I see that as well! I have the list from Ancestry of the Astoria's passenger log. I have Anton Luksar, 28, 10 March 1900. And Anton Luksus, 91, 10 March 1900.

With Luksus's name put down as 91, is there a chance that someone would have made that BIG of a mistake? They had to be present in front of the person when they were transcribing the information right? That way they could easily tell that my grandfather was not 91, but 28.

EDIT: There is also a Olif Luksar, but that is a big difference in name change.