Gedling All Hallows MARRIAGE Look-up please

[Vengeur]

Hi I have the following marriage: 27 Mar 1859 at Gedling All Hallows

George CAVE
Elizabeth FRANKLIN

Unfortunately the FindMyPast / Notts FHS transcription does not give details of status, occupation, residence or (and crucially) father's names.

Is anyone able to help with this at all?  Very much appreciated if you can. Thanks

[nottsgirl1]

Hi,

I can have a look for you next time I'm in Nottingham Archives later over the next 2 weeks.

NG

[Vengeur]

Thank you. That's very kind of you.

[Vengeur]

Thank you. That's very kind of you.

[trish1120]

I cant help with the Marriage but have 2 Baptisms;

St Stephen, Sneinton, Nottighamshire
EMILY FRANKLIN Cave, 9 Oct 1859
WILLIAM HENRY Cave, 27 April 1862
Both have abode as Tenfeet Street
Parents GEORGE/ELIZABETH Cave
Occp for George on Williams Baptism is Painter and Emilys is Lacemaker
(FreeREG)

Having trouble finding them 1861 Census.
Emily Franklin Caves Birth is Reg as just Emily Cave Dec 1859 Radford
Cant find Burial for her 1859-1871 in Notts.
If alive she should be on the 1861 Census I would think.

I see by 1871 they are in Canada;
Elisabeth Cave      F   29   England
William Cave      M   8   Q
George Cave      M   1   Q
George Cave      M   32   England

Trish

[trish1120]

Ok, George is in Hospital!

1861 Census
General Hospital, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire
George CAVE, 22, (1839) Patient, Mar, Labourer, born Isle of Wight, Newport

After you have the M/C details that NG is looking up for you I am sure this is your George in 1851

1851 Census
13 Lees Yard,
Nottingham, Nottinghamshire
HO107/2133/74/5
George Cave, 31, Head, Mar, Lacemaker, born Isle of Wight, Newport
Sophia Cave, 32, Wife, Mar, born Isle of Wight, Whippingham
GEORGE HENRY Cave, 12, Son, born Isle of Wight, Whippingham*****
Mary Cave, 10, Daug, born Isle of Wight, Newport
John Charles Cave, 7, Son, born Isle of Wight
Eliza Cave, 5, Dau, born Isle of Wight
Fanny Hannah Cave, 3, Daug, born Isle of Wight

MARRIAGE;
Marriage Date:   12 Nov 1837
Marriage Place:   Wippingham, Hampshire, England
George CAVE age 19 (1818), Father JAMES Cave
Saira WILLIAMS age 19 (1818), Father DAVID Williams
(Source Anc)

1841 Census
Whippingham Hampshire
HO107/Whippingham
David William, 65, Ag Lab
Mary William, 65
George Caves, 20, Lace maker
Celia Caves, 20
GEORGE Caves, 2***
Mary Caves, 9mths

On the Christening of JOHN CHARLES Cave 17 Dec 1843 (birth 3 Nov 1843) Hampshire, Father is George Cave and Mother Sabra Williams
(Familysearch.Org)
Lots of variation in her name!

I cant pin down Elizabeth Franklin pre Marriage or 1861 when she should be down as married.

[Vengeur]

Thanks trish1120. The baptism information I didn't have (thank you) but I do have all the census information.

I am trying to track Elizabeth FRANKLIN hence hoping for father's details from the marriage so I can get a fix on her family . Like you I couldn't find her in 1861 but she's surely in the Notts area somewhere.

[trish1120]

Your welcome. Yes she is hard to track down Elizabeth.

Good luck with the Marriage details from NG


Trish

[Daisypetal]

Hi,

This could just be coincidence but I found these families in 1861,


1861  RG 9/2451  f.113  p.10  Sneinton, Nottinghamshire    (transcribed as Snenton at Ancestry)
Ten Feet Street

FRANKLAND
Frederick    Head    61    C??rd Wainer    York ?? Hull
Hannah        Wife    60                              Notts Radford
Mary            Daur    37    Laundress         Notts Radford
Sarah    Granddaughter    13    Errand Girl    York Beverley
//
Elizabeth Payne & family
//
Jane Ogle & family
//
BROOMHEAD
Henry         Head    Mar    24    Lace Maker    Notts Basford
Elizabeth     Wife    Mar    24                           Notts Plumtree?
Frances       Son                3    Scholar            Nottingham
Frederick     Son                1                            Notts Sneinton
Elizabeth CAVE    Boarder    Mar    20    Lace Mender    Notts Sneinton
Amelia CAVE       Boarder                1                              Notts Sneinton
//
     
This Elizabeth and Amelia are transcribed as CARE at Ancestry and CARLE at FindMyPast, but it looks like CAVE to me.

In 1851 Frederick and Hannah FRANKLAND have a daughter Elizabeth aged 10 born Sneinton, living in Ten Feet Street.

I wonder if the Elizabeth FRANKLIN that marries George CAVE is in fact Elizabeth FRANKLAND, and that she has gone to live three doors down from her family while George is in hospital.   

Of course to be sure you will have to get the marriage info that NG is getting you
 
Regards,
Daisy