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Offline Gillian Thirlaway

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« on: Wednesday 24 August 16 13:55 BST (UK) »
hi,iam trying to find a john lightell born abt 1811 in Charlton Northumberland,i have his marriage death and census but i can't find his birth cert or a baptizm any help would be great ,,,thanks

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Re: lightell
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 14:12 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat :)

You won't find a birth certificate for John as he was born long before civil registration was introduced in England on 1 July 1837.  A baptism is the best you can hope for.

You say you have his marriage - can you give us details of that?

Is he this man?

1851: John LIGHTELL, 40 b Dunkerley Northumberland, in Bishopwearmouth (wife Catherine).
1861: John LEIGHTON, 50 b Charlton Northumberland, in Bishopwearmouth (wife Catherine).
1871: John LIGHTELL, 60 b Sunderland, in Bishopwearmouth (wife Catherine).
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: lightell
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 14:15 BST (UK) »
If that's him then this appears to be the marriage:

Sep qtr 1844, Sunderland

John LIGHTELL
Catherine CLARK

vol 24 p199

The marriage certificate should tell you the name and occupation of John's father, and also the names of at least two witnesses.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: lightell
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 14:24 BST (UK) »
I think the POB for him in 1851 is Dunterley. Located in Charlton area, which is in the wider Parish of Bellingham.

http://www.genuki.bpears.org.uk/NBL/Bellingham/
http://www.genuki.bpears.org.uk/NBL/Bellingham/ChurchRecords.html

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/grid/380500_585500_120

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Re: lightell
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 15:28 BST (UK) »
According to IGI his father was also John Lightell.
At his marriage his status is widowed so another wife somewhere.
Unusual name isn't it?
Her father is John Clark.
FreeBMD has an 1840 death for a Margaret Lightell in Sunderland.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: lightell
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 17:32 BST (UK) »
yeah it is unusual it changed to Leightell in later census,i new his dad was also called John by the marriage cert,its just driving me mad trying to find anything on his dad or as i said his birth,thank you for replying,i will plod on looking :)

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Re: lightell
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 24 August 16 21:23 BST (UK) »
The NBI is usually a good place to look for name locations, however there is only 1 Lightell on the whole index anywhere in the England & Wales.
There are 2 with the name Lightle.
It sounds to me that it's a corruption of another name although I couldn't say what that might be.
Lighthall perhaps.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: lightell
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 25 August 16 06:52 BST (UK) »
it is also wrote Leightell,in fact there are quite a few different spellings of it i have came across over the years, its an odd name which is good when researching,because there usually related
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