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Re: How much info is enough?
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 30 August 16 17:52 BST (UK) »
And going back to your original question it is always useful to find as many pieces of evidence as possible. Now that we know that the family emigrated to the USA it would be useful to find a passenger list showing their crossing. This might confirm the Staffordshire as opposed to the Oxfordshire connection.

William

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Re: How much info is enough?
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 30 August 16 18:01 BST (UK) »
Blimey - they are elusive:

Is this the 1901 entry?  RG13/3739, folio 52, page 18
Strasburg Street, Salford
Ellen Salt, 22, born Staffordshire - husband at the front
Elsie - 5, born Staffordshire
James - 2, born Salford

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Re: How much info is enough?
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 30 August 16 18:15 BST (UK) »
I've been thinking - and that is a very dangerous thing for me to do  :o  ;D

I believe that GiddyUpGo has to start at a later date than Harriet Ellen, in order to verify that the information given by grandmother is correct.

I'm assuming that grandmother is the connection, and so:

Have you got grandmother's birth certificate, to confirm her parents' names?  From that information we can look for the marriage of the parents, and then their respective parents, hopefully finding them on census returns which will add further information.

This is the marriage certificate of my great grandparents, Elsie Salt and Bertram Scott: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939K-T531-KD. I don't have my grandmother's birth certificate (yet) but I do know for sure that this is the correct Elsie and Bertram.

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Re: How much info is enough?
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 30 August 16 18:16 BST (UK) »
And going back to your original question it is always useful to find as many pieces of evidence as possible. Now that we know that the family emigrated to the USA it would be useful to find a passenger list showing their crossing. This might confirm the Staffordshire as opposed to the Oxfordshire connection.

William

Actually in looking they many have gone to Canada first, marriage certificate was issued in Ontario.


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Re: How much info is enough?
« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 30 August 16 18:22 BST (UK) »
 I do see my grandmother in the California birth index: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VLNN-DR5

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Re: How much info is enough?
« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 30 August 16 18:25 BST (UK) »
There is a family tree with them on Ancestry, showing them on the 1911 Canadian census - which indicates they emigrated in 1906

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Re: How much info is enough?
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 30 August 16 18:31 BST (UK) »
On family search you should be able to find the passenger list of mother, Elsie and James going to Canada in 1906 (on the Virginian). It confirms birth place as Staffs.

I also noticed that there is an obituary for your great grandmother on familysearch -found it by searching for Elsie Salt in the USA.

The parish records I referred to earlier are all on FindMyPast. Elsie's baptism also gives birth date of 6th Feb 1896. ( No one site is perfect. It so happens that in this case Staffordshire parish records are on that site.)

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Re: How much info is enough?
« Reply #43 on: Tuesday 30 August 16 19:58 BST (UK) »
This is the marriage certificate of my great grandparents, Elsie Salt and Bertram Scott: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939K-T531-KD. I don't have my grandmother's birth certificate (yet) but I do know for sure that this is the correct Elsie and Bertram.

This also confirms place of birth as Staffordshire (fascinating document to find online :)
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: How much info is enough?
« Reply #44 on: Tuesday 30 August 16 22:08 BST (UK) »
Good!   ;D ;D ;D
Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
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