Margaret Melbourne Bate Croft/Winwick/Warrington

[AddictedtoFamilyTree]

I'm a little stuck with one of my hubby's ancestors, I'm not sure if I'm missing something or looking for something that doesn't exist.

From Census records I believe she was born in Croft, Warrington around 1825/1827.

The first post 1836 record I have for her is in the 1841 Census where she is living in a household on Butter Market Street. There is a family where the head is a surgeon and several people with the same surname, then Margaret and a few other people with a different surname as possible borders/domestic servants.

Then in 1846 she marries Joseph Ashbrook and her father is listed as John Bate. I had wondered if she had been widowed and looked for a marriage for Margaret Bate to a Mr Melbourne but couldn't find one. Then I found a little more detail to the marriage and she is showing as a spinster. So should I assume she was born out of wedlock?

Name   Joseph Ashbrook
Event Type   Marriage
Event Date   28 Dec 1846
Event Place   St James, Latchford, Cheshire, England
Gender   Male
Age (Formatted)   26y
Marital Status   Single
Father's Name   Samuel Ashbrook
Spouse's Name   Margaret Melbourne
Spouse's Marital Status   Single
Spouse's Father's Name   John Bate

The census information from 1851 to 1911 state that Margaret was born in Croft. I know the parish church at Croft wasn't built until early 1830s and that St Oswalds at Winwick was the parent church. St Oswalds do have some parish records on line but I can't find a Melbourne baby that fits. There are baptisms of children of a John Bate around the same period but there are a fair few Bate records so it might not be the same man.

Am I looking for something that might not exist or is there somewhere else I should be looking for Margaret Melbourne?

[trish1120]

Margaret MILBURN,
Christened   11 January 1827, Winwick, Lancashire
Birth 7 Jan 1827
Mother LUCY Milburn

Trish

[jacquelineve]

Possible marriage for mother..

Lucy Milburn 20th Oct 1833 Warrington to John Caldwell

Jackie

[trish1120]

Lucy MILBOURN Christened 24 June 1804 Winwick to WILLIAM/SARAH

Marriage;
20 October 1833,  Warrington, Lancashire
Lucy MILBURN to John CALDWELL

[trish1120]

1841 in Warrington we have;
John Coldwell   30
Lucy Coldwell   35
Sarah Coldwell   5

[trish1120]

Something strange here;
John seems to have remarried by 1851

FreeBMD has a LUCH Caldwell Death Reg 1st Qtr 1845 Warrington

F/S has this;
LUCY Caldwell
Residence Place, Orford, parish of Warrington
Gender, Female
Burial Date   , 5 Jan 1845
Burial Place, Winwick (St. Oswald) Lancaster, England
Death Place,  Dallas, Gaston, North Carolina*******
Age, 65
Birth Date, 1780
Marital Status, Married
Spouse's Name, JOHN Caldwell

Mistranscribed??

[AddictedtoFamilyTree]

Oooh the Lucy mother of Margaret looks promising and it does refer to Croft.

Baptism: 11 Jan 1828 St Oswald, Winwick, Lancashire, England
Margaret Milburn - base daughter of Lucy Milburn
    Born: 7 Jan 1828
    Abode: Croft
    Baptised by: Thos. Hinde Curate
    Register: Baptisms 1812 - 1941, Page 113, Entry 903
    Source: LDS Film 1655876

Hadn't looked at the alternative spellings! Ooops!

[AddictedtoFamilyTree]

Base daughter means illegitimate doesn't it?

[trish1120]

Yes it does