TIDY, Charles Arthur - obituary lookup

[hosta girl]

Hi, I am wondering if someone would be interested in seeing if there was an obituary for the above person who died August 31, 2000 in Ash, Surrey, England.  Charles was born July 3, 1920 in the Registration District/County of Southwark, Greater London and at one time lived in Cranley/Cranleigh Surrey.  I found him in the 1939 Register Transcription with his parents Frank Arthur & Elsie Winifred.  His wife, Sylvia Joan (nee Ive) died in March 1994.
I have tried many different websites (Ancestry, FindMyPast,  Find A Grave) without success.
Thank you.
hosta girl

[CaroleW]

who died August 31, 2000 in Ash, Surrey, England.

You have the wrong date of death according to his probate.

Date shown as 28th August which may be why you cannot find an obit

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

[hosta girl]

You are correct - I mistakenly took the death date from another source - same person but different death date.  I also have the death and probate deaths from the probate search website.
I find that even with the incorrect date that something usually appears but also thinking that obits are rare to find.  I don't live in England so was hoping that someone could steer me in the right direction in finding an obituary, e.g. newspaper or library.
Thanks CaroleW

[Girl Guide]

The below website gives you a list of newspapers in Surrey

http://www.newspapersintheuk.com/england/south_east_england/surrey.php

You could write to the newspapers asking them if they have any archives for their papers.  The other alternative is to write to the local library asking if they have newspapers for 2000 and asking if they could do a search for you.

I see that the probate record on the Find a Will website doesn't give any address etc.  The older ones do.  Do you know exactly where he died?  If so that will make it easier to find the correct library.

[ThrelfallYorky]

I've generally been very impressed by the detailed and informative Canadian and American obituaries I've encountered for those of my lot who have "hopped the pond" - even quite ordinary people seem to have them, listing almost every relative, parents, place of birth, working life, organisations they belonged to, such as Masons, etc -probably even the name of the pet cat in some of them!
We don't seem to have anything comparable in most english areas, unless one is exalted enough to merit an obituary as a local dignitary or character, and those rarely seem to have a lot of useful detail. It's something that our transatlantic cousins do seem to do far better.

[hosta girl]

Hi Girl Guide and ThrelfallYorky,

Thanks for responding and giving me some suggestions.  I have been trying to find family for so long and feel I'm closer to doing this but of course in researching we all know there are speed bumps along the way.  ThrelfallYorky, you are correct about the Canadian & American obituaries and in the Vancouver (Canada) Vancouver Sun a lot have photos.  A friend who also researches & who grew up in England did warn me that 'notices' in England usually only state a date and where the service may be and that the probate may not list family members. 

Thank you Girl Guide for the newspaper website which I will check out.  According to an Ancestry FT Charles died in Ash, Surrey.  The England & Wales Death Reg. Index lists the 'Event Place' as West Surrey, Surrey, England.  The probate was done in Winchester, Hants.  I didn't order the probate information because of being told there would probably not be any family info included and after finding the probate info for who I think was one of Charles' sons who died in 1994.  No names, very generic.  Did you actually see information in the probate? A couple of people who have Trees were contacted (not by me) but never heard back. 

I looked on Find a Grave for 2 churches I found in Ash but no results.  Also e-mailed the public library in Ash last night (love libraries!) and received a response this morning to say that because the library does not have the resources to look up an obit they have forwarded my request to the Surrey History Centre in Woking.  Rec'd an automated response from them this morning saying I'm in the line-up and they aim to answer requests within 20 working days.

FYI, I have roots in both Hampshire and Yorkshire on my maternal side.  My maternal g.mother was born in Itchen-Stoke and have relatives in the New Forest & Lymington as well as some who unfortunately spent time in a Workhouse in Alton.  My maternal g.father was born in a tiny village, with the nearest 'city' being Skipton.  Have visited England many times.

Thanks again.
hosta girl

[Gibel]

The name or names in the Probate Index are the executors of the will. To see what is written in the will, where family members may well be named you need to buy a copy of the will.

[hosta girl]

Hi Gibel,
This index is a new website to me but after going on a couple of times I did find info on Charles' wife (address in Ash, Aldershot, Hants) who died in 1994 and who I think is one of Charles' sons who died in 1992 (he lived elsewhere).  The only info I found for Charles in the probate index (he died in 2000) was the date & place of probate + probate #.  I did not see anything about who the executor/s were.  I do know that I would have to purchase the Will to find out more info but before doing that I would want to know for sure that family members are listed - info I hear is not always there.
Now that I know their address in Ash when his wife died I will contact the Surrey History Centre in Woking to give them more info.
Thanks. 

[ThrelfallYorky]

SKipton? Any help we may be able to give there?
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