My great-great grandfather

[Annette7]

There is an Army Pension record for Edmund Mellor bc.1888 Darlington who enlisted on 2/9/1914 in 10th K.R.R.C. which is clearly your man as refers to wife Gertrude Harrold (married Register Office, Aston 17/1/1909), plus the 3 children he had at that time.   However, the record goes on to state he was discharged on 20/10/1914 due to 'defective eyesight' which would suggest that he didn't take part in the war after all.

Did he therefore re-enlist later into the Worcester Regiment or is that medal record for another Edmund Mellor?   

So, both army record plus 1911 census state he was born in Darlington.

There are some confusing trees on Ancestry (in that some contradict each other) regarding him the main consensus being he was the John Edmund Williams birth June.1888 West Bromwich, Staffs.

1891 census showing:

William Mellor  bc.1863     Cannock, Staffs.
Emma Mellor   bc.1864     Monmouthshire
Jessica Mellor   bc.1888    Burton on Trent
John E. Mellor   bc.1888    Darlaston
Emma Mellor    bc.1890

In 1894 William Mellor married an Annie Bosson Sept.1894 Stoke upon Trent.

It would appear that William and 'first' wife Emma were not actually married but as the 3 children shown in 1891 were all registered as Williams one would assume Emma's maiden name was Williams.

So, one could argue that 'Darlaston' was misheard when he enlisted and recorded as Darlington BUT since Edmund himself filled out 1911 census form and entered 'Darlington' that doesn't pan out.

I think you definitely need to get a copy of his 1909 marriage certificate to confirm if his father was indeed the William referred to above.   None of the trees I looked at seemed to have any real 'proof' and don't know if their recorded findings are pure conjecture or not.  I, personally, wouldn't want to go down this 'route' without some further evidence, the marriage certificate being the first port of call.

Annette

[adnams74]

There is an Army Pension record for Edmund Mellor bc.1888 Darlington who enlisted on 2/9/1914 in 10th K.R.R.C. which is clearly your man as refers to wife Gertrude Harrold (married Register Office, Aston 17/1/1909), plus the 3 children he had at that time.   However, the record goes on to state he was discharged on 20/10/1914 due to 'defective eyesight' which would suggest that he didn't take part in the war after all.

Did he therefore re-enlist later into the Worcester Regiment or is that medal record for another Edmund Mellor?   

So, both army record plus 1911 census state he was born in Darlington.

There are some confusing trees on Ancestry (in that some contradict each other) regarding him the main consensus being he was the John Edmund Williams birth June.1888 West Bromwich, Staffs.

1891 census showing:

William Mellor  bc.1863     Cannock, Staffs.
Emma Mellor   bc.1864     Monmouthshire
Jessica Mellor   bc.1888    Burton on Trent
John E. Mellor   bc.1888    Darlaston
Emma Mellor    bc.1890

In 1894 William Mellor married an Annie Bosson Sept.1894 Stoke upon Trent.

It would appear that William and 'first' wife Emma were not actually married but as the 3 children shown in 1891 were all registered as Williams one would assume Emma's maiden name was Williams.

So, one could argue that 'Darlaston' was misheard when he enlisted and recorded as Darlington BUT since Edmund himself filled out 1911 census form and entered 'Darlington' that doesn't pan out.

I think you definitely need to get a copy of his 1909 marriage certificate to confirm if his father was indeed the William referred to above.   None of the trees I looked at seemed to have any real 'proof' and don't know if their recorded findings are pure conjecture or not.  I, personally, wouldn't want to go down this 'route' without some further evidence, the marriage certificate being the first port of call.

Annette

Hi Annette,

I have got a copy of the wedding certificate for Edmund and Gertrude and Edmund's father is called William, which would tie in with the census record for 1891 where he is called John E. Williams. In the 1901 census I have not been able to locate either an Edmund or  a John. E. Williams as of yet.

Why Darlington is mentioned in both his attestation papers and the 1911 census I can only guess at.

According to my grandmother's birth certificate and my great-grandmother's death certificate (she died a couple of weeks after giving birth to my grandmother) he was a private in the 1st battalion Worcestershire Regiment but after that he disappears into the stratosphere unless he changed his name back to Williams, which is quite possible after what has been discovered so far.

Many thanks

Adam

[jim1]

Edmund Mellor, who I know was a Private in the 1st Batallion Worcestershire Regiment in April 1918

Where has this come from ?
Electoral Rolls or somewhere else ?
Were there 4 children altogether including your Grandmother ?

[adnams74]

Edmund Mellor, who I know was a Private in the 1st Batallion Worcestershire Regiment in April 1918

Where has this come from ?
Electoral Rolls or somewhere else ?
Were there 4 children altogether including your Grandmother ?

Death certificate of great-grandmother/birth certificate of grandmother.

Four girls in total.

[jim1]

So Edmund Mellor b. 1915 B'ham mmn Harrold isn't one of them ?
With regard to his war service both Edmund Mellors look one in the same.
According to his no. 24374 he attested around Oct. 1915. As this was before conscription means he volunteered again.
His SWB Roll is a bit confusing as it gives 16/12/15 as his attestation date but this is his qualifying date for his 15 Star.
Difficult to say which Batt. he was in when he was wounded as they were all in France. Probably the 3rd. as that was his final Batt.