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Help to find death certificate.
« on: Monday 05 September 16 12:08 BST (UK) »
After the great help of my last post regards Edward Crawford WW1 I have been passed army papers regards his brother Charles Crawford (b 1882) the family thought he died during the 1st WW but it seems he died prior to 1914 in fact according to the papers in 1908 but I cant seems to locate a death certificate or cause of death I wonder if anyone could share some light the papers are out of focus and some details seem wrong ( birth date on one page seems to young) but the main details of enlisting fathers address are all correct though it seems as though he may have enlisted two or more times any help as always is very much a god send thank you in advance.
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Crawford

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Re: Help to find death certificate.
« Reply #1 on: Monday 05 September 16 12:22 BST (UK) »
Could he have died on an overseas posting? There are no deaths at the right time on Freebmd.
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Re: Help to find death certificate.
« Reply #2 on: Monday 05 September 16 12:34 BST (UK) »
Can I just say I have credits for Scotlands people but I just keep hitting the same names over and over I am not sure where he died but I think it most likely in Scotland and maybe while training and I am unsure whether the Army may with hold certificate's or not but it just states on the papers deceased which is vague unless he died outwith the camp on leave, thank you groom but I don't think he was posted I have attached one more paper if it helps.
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Crawford

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Re: Help to find death certificate.
« Reply #3 on: Monday 05 September 16 12:37 BST (UK) »
FindMyPast has the British Nationals Died Overseas (1818-2005) database.

There is an entry there for Charles Crawford, born 1884, died 1908, died at sea

Record Source is GRO Marine Death Indices (1903 to 1965)


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(Select A-Z of Record Sets, and type "Overseas")
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Re: Help to find death certificate.
« Reply #4 on: Monday 05 September 16 12:44 BST (UK) »
That's fantastic KGarrad I am most grateful a big sorry to groom looks like you could be right.
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Crawford

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Re: Help to find death certificate.
« Reply #5 on: Monday 05 September 16 13:13 BST (UK) »
Perhaps a local library offers free access to FindMyPast?

For just the one lookup, it's got to be worth a pop!
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Re: Help to find death certificate.
« Reply #6 on: Monday 05 September 16 13:26 BST (UK) »
thank you KGarrad but I have just popped a payasyougo with findmypast I am in the process of checking now will get back with results thank you again.
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Crawford

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 05 September 16 13:39 BST (UK) »
Looks as though he was sailing on the Orcadian in Montevideo on the 27th nov 1908 as was posted drowned he was classed as a trimmer so I am away to look up the event can I once again thank all who looked and groom and your self KGarrad for your inputs it has been a slog cause I thought he died while serving mucho gracias as we say in Glasgow.
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Crawford

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« Reply #8 on: Monday 05 September 16 13:53 BST (UK) »
SS Ormiston, built in 1893 for R & C Allan, Glasgow.
Sold 1898 to Allan Line and renamed SS Orcadian.
Sold 1914 to Donaldson Line, Glasgow. Renamed in 1915 as SS Polaria.
1916 purchased by Houlder, Middleton.
Wrecked off Alexandria 5th January 1918.

Ship Number 102644
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