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Hi there trying to find out more about my family who lived at Dungiven rd until the 1950's
They are Joe and Florence Butcher ( probably married around 1920) children : Fred, Stella, Vala, G***, and Jack. All Roman Catholic.
Joe, Fred and Jack worked for the Post office, Stella and Vala left to study nursing.
We are facing a crisis as need evidence that they are family as we the NOI cannot find any marriage or birth records!!!! Our last surviving relatives   and G*** both unfortunately now have dementia !
Is it worth trying the local church St Patrick?????
Kind regards Alex


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Re: Trying to trace family of Butcher living at 23 Dungiven rd waterside circa 1911
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 06 September 16 11:44 BST (UK) »
In which town/city/county/country is this?


EDIT!
Just found such a place in Londonderry, Northern Ireland.
I assume that's the right place?
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Trying to trace family of Butcher living at 23 Dungiven rd waterside circa 1911
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 06 September 16 13:33 BST (UK) »
I'm struggling to figure out "Is it worth trying the local church St Patrick?" in Derry or Waterside  :-\
Here's the current website for churches covering waterside-
http://www.watersideparish.net/

where exactly have you tried to find civil records of the family?
GRONI's online database covers births 100+ years old and marriages 75+ years old
Family Search's online index goes up to 1921 for N.I. counties-
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/location/1927084?region=Ireland

Remember that we aren't allowed to post details of living people to protect their privacy- the same reason the above sites have date restrictions.

Marriages usually take place in the bride's church so it might not be found in the church the family usually attended.

This is the only Joseph Butcher in Derry in 1911 I can find but no guarantee he's the one you are looking for-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_Urban__4_/Elmwood_Road/603115

Added- 1957 streets, Derry shows Dungiven Road but no Butchers there or anywhere else-
http://www.derryjournal.com/news/the-streets-of-derry-in-1957-1-6229228
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Re: Trying to trace family of Butcher living at 23 Dungiven rd waterside circa 1911
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 06 September 16 21:32 BST (UK) »
You could try www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk Go to advanced search/exact phrase - use"23 dungiven road",including quotation marks.It may be possible as a non subscriber to see a summary of relevant entries without detail.It may be of minor help.

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Re: Trying to trace family of Butcher living at 23 Dungiven rd waterside circa 1911
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 06 September 16 21:39 BST (UK) »
Good suggestion! several promising leads  ;)
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Re: Trying to trace family of Butcher living at 23 Dungiven rd waterside circa 1911
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 07 September 16 11:56 BST (UK) »
Derry Journal  1 May 1933
Deaths:

BUTCHER- 30 Apr 1933 at his parent's residence, 23 Dungiven Road, Waterside
Joseph Jude, infant son of Joseph and Florence Butcher
Funeral today ( Monday) 1st May at 3.30pm to Ardmore Burying ground.

Suffer Little Children To Come Unto Me

Edit:

A property at 23 Dungiven Road was sold at auction in 1942.
The owner was Mrs McLaughlin .
I could be wrong about this, but the description of this property does not look like a multi occupancy building


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Re: Trying to trace family of Butcher living at 23 Dungiven rd waterside circa 1911
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 07 September 16 13:17 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately the houses on Dungiven Road in the 1911 census don't have road numbers to find who was in #23-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_No__5_Urban/Dungiven_Road

The Valuation Revision books on www.proni.gov.uk should go up to c1930
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Re: Trying to trace family of Butcher living at 23 Dungiven rd waterside circa 1911
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 07 September 16 13:29 BST (UK) »
Administration of the estate of Alexander Sherrard late of 23 Dungiven-road Londonderry Retired Farmer who died 11 May 1907 granted at Londonderry to Rachel Sherrard Spinster.

Alexander & sister Rachel in 1901-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Waterside/Dungiven_Road/1540164

Rachel in 1911-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_No__5_Urban/Dungiven_Road/606483
Property #62 on enumerator's form-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai002854573/
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Re: Trying to trace family of Butcher living at 23 Dungiven rd waterside circa 1911
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 07 September 16 14:47 BST (UK) »
In the January 1942 piece(as opposed to the bulk September snippets),Mrs M M'Laughlin is described as Executor.

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